Non-downloaded books and the Prioritization tool

Mark Barnes (Logos)
Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,899

Currently, books that are prioritized but not downloaded are hidden from the Prioritization tool on Desktop, even though they can impact prioritization. This can cause a lot of confusion. But starting from v35, cloud books, Print Library books, and other unowned books will now be visible in the Prioritize Books pane with an icon to indicate their special status. These books can now be added, removed, and rearranged as normal. (It's not possible to add other unowned books to your priority list, but if you've previously added one and later lost the license, the unlicensed book will now be visible.)

Because this data was previously hidden but not deleted, don't be surprised if you find duplicates or other long-forgotten entries that are now visible in the list. It's possible some previously hidden entries may also have been moved to the end of the list.

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  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭

    Currently, books that are prioritized but not downloaded are hidden from the Prioritization tool on Desktop, even though they can impact prioritization. This can cause a lot of confusion. But starting from v35, cloud books, Print Library books, and other unowned books will now be visible in the Prioritize Books pane with an icon to indicate their special status. These books can now be added, removed, and rearranged as normal.

    Great news. This has been an irritation to me and I'm happy for the change.

    (Now, if we can complement this enhancement with the ability to add Print Library books to collections ...)

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 331 ✭✭✭

    But starting from v35, cloud books, Print Library books, and other unowned books will now be visible in the Prioritize Books pane with an icon to indicate their special status. These books can now be added, removed, and rearranged as normal.

    That's great news! Could you share rough approximate dates when this feature will come to

    - Logos Pro (subscription)

    - Logos (without subscription) ?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,407

    That's great news! Could you share rough approximate dates when this feature will come to

    - Logos Pro (subscription)

    - Logos (without subscription) ?

    35 will release approximately 6 weeks after 34 was released unless some major problem is uncovered in beta testing.

    without subscription - maybe/maybe not sometime in the Fall when the multi-tiered subscriptions are implemented.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,770

    MJ. Smith said:

    That's great news! Could you share rough approximate dates when this feature will come to

    - Logos Pro (subscription)

    - Logos (without subscription) ?

    35 will release approximately 6 weeks after 34 was released unless some major problem is uncovered in beta testing.

    without subscription - maybe/maybe not sometime in the Fall when the multi-tiered subscriptions are implemented.

    This change is not restricted to Logos Pro i.e join the beta or wait until v35 is released.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    Hi Mark

    Currently, books that are prioritized but not downloaded are hidden from the Prioritization tool on Desktop, even though they can impact prioritization.

    I've realised I don't quite understand the reason for this - and how these non-downloaded books can impact prioritisation.

    I recognise that the prioritisation would "kick in" if a book was downloaded / purchased but how do they impact prioritisation if in the cloud (where they don't appear in Guides etc) or in the print library?

    Any guidance appreciated

    Thanks, Graham

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,770

    how do they impact prioritisation if in the cloud (where they don't appear in Guides etc) or in the print library?

    Good one. I had assumed that my Top Five bibles would only be four if one was in the cloud!?

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    Prioritization of non-downloaded books have an effect when using the web app.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    Prioritization of non-downloaded books have an effect when using the web app.

    Thanks Andrew - I hadn't thought of that. Presumably it would also, similarly, impact operation of the mobile apps.

    I can see this applying to cloud-based books, does it also apply to books we only have in the Print Library?

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    Graham Criddle said:I can see this applying to cloud-based books, does it also apply to books we only have in the Print Library?

    All books that are visible in your library can be added to prioritization, and all books that were ever added to prioritization will now be visible in the list.

    I don't think there are currently any features that leverage prioritization for unowned books. The benefit there is largely going to be complete visibility of the prioritized books to prevent unexpected ordering changes, particularly with regards to resources that you might acquire, lose, then re-acquire through means such as returns or subscription.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    I don't think there are currently any features that leverage prioritization for unowned books. The benefit there is largely going to be complete visibility of the prioritized books to prevent unexpected ordering changes, particularly with regards to resources that you might acquire, lose, then re-acquire through means such as returns or subscription.

    That's helpful - thanks Andrew