The Desired Features and Feature Improvements Thread (NON-AI)

Frank Sauer
Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Just wanted to start a thread to help guide Logos with ideas that appeal to Users going forward. Please keep this to NON-AI related Features.

  • What Current Features would you like to see improved - share the proposed improvements
  • What New Feature Ideas would you like to see added - give details
  • For the long time users - please post the missing Libronix Features/Modules that you miss and/or missing elements to the replacements that have been made a part of the current engine

Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14

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  • John
    John Member Posts: 548 ✭✭

    I would like to see all AI and cloud-based features moved to the web app where they belong, and the desktop program to remain a standalone program with no dependencies on the internet beyond installation and updates.

  • Lukas
    Lukas Member Posts: 175 ✭✭

    I would like to have a folder option, and clippings and notes integrated into one location. Would also love to have a print or export function on mobile. 

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    What New Feature Ideas would you like to see added - give details

    Before my esteemed happy colleague gets to reply...

    'Projects' would be my dream come true.

    I would love to be able to open Logos and continue work seamlessly on my Sermon, my Bible Study Session, or my little bit for Messy Church.

    Each project having its own layout, books open etc.

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭

    What New Feature Ideas would you like to see added - give details

    Before my esteemed happy colleague gets to reply...

    'Projects' would be my dream come true.

    I would love to be able to open Logos and continue work seamlessly on my Sermon, my Bible Study Session, or my little bit for Messy Church.

    Each project having its own layout, books open etc.

    This would be a tremendous addition! The ability to name and save layouts was a good start when that was added - but your 'Projects' idea would greatly improve what we have currently.

    Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    but your 'Projects' idea

    Thanks for the support Frank but I cannot take responsibility for the idea. KS4J has been pushing for this for what seems like decades.

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭

    KS4J has been pushing for this for what seems like decades.

    I think that was Alabama?

    But I'm 15 years going, and I still don't understand current layouts vs  projects. I carefully read yours and Alabama's description ... looks the same.

    Personally, I'd like layout snap-ons. You could have a core, that you work with routinely, and 'snap-ons' for special areas. But I won't be a subscriber, so layouts are fine.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmm ... I have a list on feedback.logos.com which includes:

    1. Visual Filters: Please provide a separate default icon for notes added from workflows: I opened a text and was surprised to see a string of yellow-bent-corner note icons attached to the text as I had not "turned on" any notebooks. They were all generated from Workflows. Please provide workflows with a distinguishable icon so we can instantly recognize them as workflow notes. Vote at Visual Filters: Please provide a separate default icon for notes added from workflows | Logos
    2. Please expand calendar devotional to include undated daily devotionals: There are a number of monthly devotionals in Logos that are given only day of month in the book - the idea being that they are monthly rather than annual plans. Please extend the concept of calendar devotionals to include these books. Vote at Please expand calendar devotional to include undated daily devotionals | Logos
    3. Rework prioritization: Prioritization needs to be simplified. Among the requirements should be:
      1. The ability to see/specify the index the prioritization applies to
      2. The ability to apply advanced prioritization to a collection of resources
      3. A new ability to apply advanced prioritization to specific tools
      4. An easy way to see resources that are subject to a specific index in priority sequence whether by default or user specification
      5. An easy way to see what index types you have defined priority for and which are still simply the default.
      By not having the multiple indexes of a single resource being prioritized together, one eliminates the most confusing aspect of prioritization - the interactions between what are to the user separate prioritization list.
      By making the resulting priority lists visible, one eliminates the stray prioritized book from inadvertently messing with the list.
      By making collections to be prioritized, one allows books to use the author's intended translation rather than the users' preferred translation.
      Vote at Rework prioritization | Logos
    4. Cheat sheets for new users with standardized terminology: One thing that makes Logos/Verbum intimidating to new users is that the same things is referred to differently in the forums, in the documentation, and by the various sources providing training. This makes it difficult for a new user to find the information they need in help. I would like to suggest that Logos take some basic screen shots of the main screen options a user sees, that these screen shots be labeled with an official Logos terminology for every component/action available on that screen, and that hovering on that label tells you what the action does and when relevant, the sequence in which the options appear. I say component/action because the right click menu is fundamental to the use of Logos and the other keyboard options/actions are often forgotten. The images should go for completeness although I would not oppose a simplified overview view as an addition. I include sequence because knowing whether or not something is controllable via prioritization or saved selection lists is a very frequent issue. If Logos refuses to do this, as an alternative they could assign a person to verify/edit user generated wiki pages to provide the information - a far inferior solution in terms of visibility to new users. Vote at Cheat sheets for new users with standardized terminology | Logos
    5. Allow external sources in bibliography documents: Please allow us to add external sources to our bibliographies, both items that are in Logos that we don't own and items not available in Logos at all. Vote at Allow external sources in bibliography documents | Logos
    6. Expand workflows to accept non-Biblical texts: For a chunk of Christians, Bible study includes studing it in its natural habitat as well as caged between to covers. By this I mean:
      1. studying it's use in creeds, confessional documents, catechism ..
      2. studying it's expression in visual arts, literature, music (think Milgrom's Visual Midrash)
      3. studying it's interpretation throughout history e.g. studying an early church father's sermons or commentaries
      4. studying pseudepigrapha and aporcypha and it's relationship to the Bible
      5. . . .
      For this we need to be able to use a non-biblical text as the base of a workflow. Please expand the workflow to allow this. Vote at Expand workflows to accept non-Biblical texts | Logos
    7. Reading Plans: Never-ending reading plans: Please add an option to reading plans for them to simply start over when completed. This is needed to support the perpetual reading of the Gospels in the Optina Kellia readings, the weekly psalm cycle for Jewish Psalm Societies, for the monthly distribution of Psalms of the Huguenots, etc. Vote at Reading Plans: Never-ending reading plans | Logos

    These are mainly relatively small things. If implemented, they would show Logos was listening to its users. I have many more small things and a couple of biggies. But this should give you a sense of my thinking.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Kevin A
    Kevin A Member Posts: 1,037 ✭✭
    1. Leader/Follower link sets. It would be nice to just be able to left-right arrow through a linked collection of bible commentaries for example without ending up in a different book in my bible. It would also allow for scrolling in those linked resources without the same thing happening. There are limitations with multiview such as having the same filters applied to each resource, and being unable to change the width of one resource, and being restricted to having the resources right next to each other.
    2. Atlas using GPU. It would make it nice and smooth in full screen, as the web app is.
    3. Export notes to markdown. This would allow notes to be accessed in other applications such as Obsidian. One should not ideally have to write ones own tool for this.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭

    1. The ability to see/specify the index the prioritization applies to

    Libby, Libby, Libby on the label, label, label.

    All good. Interesting, never ending reading plans.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Wolfgang Schneider
    Wolfgang Schneider Member Posts: 676 ✭✭

    'Projects' would be my dream come true.

    I would love to be able to open Logos and continue work seamlessly on my Sermon, my Bible Study Session, or my little bit for Messy Church.

    Each project having its own layout, books open etc.

    Is this essentially the same as opening Logos with using named layout? From there one can have links on favorites or short cuts to then open the other layouts to work on with one click? To open a project layout at the last state it would require to update the layout before closing or switching to a different layout ...

    Or is the idea of projects to put different Logos shortcuts on Windows/Mac desktop or taskbar which then would open Logos with a different project named layout? 

    Wolfgang Schneider

    (BibelCenter)

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    Or is the idea of projects to put different Logos shortcuts on Windows/Mac desktop or taskbar which then would open Logos with a different project named layout? 

    This one (ish)

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    What New Feature Ideas would you like to see added - give details

    LECTIONARIES ... give some thought to the vast majority of Christian leaders that need to be cognisant of the current reading.

    (is it an oxymoron to consider Logos' thought processes as 'Parochial'?)

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LECTIONARIES ... give some thought to the vast majority of Christian leaders that need to be cognisant of the current reading.

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    (is it an oxymoron to consider Logos' thought processes as 'Parochial'?)

    [:D]

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Phillip J. Long
    Phillip J. Long Member Posts: 24

    I want full bibliographic information included with a highlighted note, so when I export a set of notes/highlights, I get the bibliographic information along with the list of highlighted text. I can do this with Readwise for Kindle books (giving book and location in Kindle, so not ideal). I would love for Logos to do something similar.

    I want to be able to edit bibliographic information locally for a resource so it conforms to the style guide (or fix occasional errors, etc.) For example, The Lexham Bible Dictionary citation includes all the editors; I would like just John Barry et al. Yes, I can fix it quickly in Word, but I would prefer to fix it once.

  • Joseph Turner
    Joseph Turner Member Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭

    I would like them to reintroduce a toggle in the regular Logos app, which could be defaulted to off, to include the Apocrypha in Bible related searches and features.  This would be helpful for both those who use the expanded canon as well as for research for those who do not.

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