Barrett John and Judaism

Christian Alexander
Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I’m trying to track down a statement made by C.K. Barrett in his book The Gospel of John and Judaism. I need pages 12-15 if that is possible. I understand that he made the simple but astute comment that inquiry into the topic of "John and Judaism" is not, and never has been, a question of whether the Fourth Gospel has a relationship with Judaism. I want to corroborate that statement. I also want to know what sources he used in his analysis and interpretation. These are the pages the referencing author cited in his work but he never directly quoted Barrett so it makes it hard to see his analysis and points of entry into Barrett's work. I have sent in an ILL request and tried Amazon, Google Books and internet Archive. 

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have...tried...Internet Archive. 

    Can you show me a screenshot of your having tried Internet Archive and not having found it there? Just wondering if you know how to search Internet Archive. It's there, BTW.

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    First go to this link https://archive.org/

    Then type title "Gospel of John and Judaism"

    Tick box "Search metadata"

    Click search

    Hover to title

    Click on title

    it said it was "Borrow Unavailable"

    I will try to get screenshots when I get home.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First go to this link https://archive.org/

    Then type title "Gospel of John and Judaism"

    Tick box "Search metadata"

    Click search

    Hover to title

    Click on title

    it said it was "Borrow Unavailable"

    I will try to get screenshots when I get home.

    Weird. It showed it was available to me.

    image

    Maybe someone else had it out at the time. It appears there's only one copy, and maybe they have a limit of only one person being able to borrow it at a time. Or some other limit that had been reached. But one can only borrow it for an hour, so if it says "Borrow Unavailable" then just try again in a little over an hour.

    That's my first theory.

    My second theory, which probably should have been my first theory is, do you have an account on archive.org and are you logged in? I'm logged into my account when I see the above "Borrow for 1 hour". It's free to set up an account. I suggest you do it post haste if you haven't got one yet. The Internet Archive has been my source for all kinds of books that I haven't been able to find elsewhere!

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    Weird. It showed it was available to me.

    image

    Maybe someone else had it out at the time. It appears there's only one copy, and maybe they have a limit of only one person being able to borrow it at a time. Or some other limit that had been reached. But one can only borrow it for an hour, so if it says "Borrow Unavailable" then just try again in a little over an hour.

    That's my first theory.

    My second theory, which probably should have been my first theory is, do you have an account on archive.org and are you logged in? I'm logged into my account when I see the above "Borrow for 1 hour". It's free to set up an account. I suggest you do it post haste if you haven't got one yet. The Internet Archive has been my source for all kinds of books that I haven't been able to find elsewhere!

    Very weird. I do have an account. When I sign out it shows it is available but when signed in it is unavailable. The Internet Archive is an invaluable resource for those of us who do not have a large library accessible. I wonder if it is something to do with my PC or internet connection? Crazy indeed. 

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    Very weird. I do have an account. When I sign out it shows it is available but when signed in it is unavailable. The Internet Archive is an invaluable resource for those of us who do not have a large library accessible. I wonder if it is something to do with my PC or internet connection? Crazy indeed. 

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    Very weird. I do have an account. When I sign out it shows it is available but when signed in it is unavailable. It is an invaluable resource for those of us who do not have a large library accessible. I wonder if it is something to do with my PC or internet connection? Crazy indeed. 

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    Very weird. I do have an account. When I sign out it shows it is available but when signed in it is unavailable. The Internet Archive is an invaluable resource for those of us who do not have a large library accessible. I wonder if it is something to do with my PC or internet connection? I am going to try and call support tomorrow. Crazy indeed. 

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    Very weird. I do have an account. When I sign out it shows it is available but when signed in it is unavailable. The Internet Archive is an invaluable resource for those of us who do not have a large library accessible. I wonder if it is something to do with my PC or internet connection? Crazy indeed. 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very weird. I do have an account. When I sign out it shows it is available but when signed in it is unavailable. The Internet Archive is an invaluable resource for those of us who do not have a large library accessible. I wonder if it is something to do with my PC or internet connection? Crazy indeed. 

    That is strange. I don't know what could be causing that.

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    Would you be willing to determine if my assumption of pages 12-15 of Barrett's book is correct? 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would you be willing to determine if my assumption of pages 12-15 of Barrett's book is correct? 

    Sorry, I don't have time. But maybe someone else who has access to it could do it for you.

  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    But maybe someone else who has access to it could do it for you

    Can anyone do this?