SUGGESTION: Address my biggest annoyance in Logos Language Studies

My biggest single annoyance in Logos when it comes to language studies, which has been there for years, is the micro small pop up tooltip window in the lower left hand corner of the screen that gives parsing information on a word.

It is hard to see and it breaks your workflow as your eyes have to shift from the main text to focus to read it, then find your reading spot again. Yes, there is the information panel which I use A LOT, but being able to hover over a word without clicking it to get a quick pop up speeds my reading substantially.

This is one of the things that Accordance has always had over Logos in this area. Compare the difference of their tool tip window. This is bold and big enough that I can glance to see it and then continue reading. It is fast, snappy, just giving in the blink of an eye the information you need with a quick hover of the mouse and can be moved around and customised as well.

Speed when it comes to language studies is not just how fast the software can load databases and do searches, but how the UI minimises friction. It does not seem like it would be rocket science to improve the visibility and customisation of this feature on Logos.

Please... Logos is a great Swiss army knife in so many other areas. Can we improve the useability of this tool on the knife?

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DMB

Yep ... goes back to L4. Glances not allowed! Squint, buddy, squint.

I would add:

- Let the popup violate the tile border, vs placing currently over-top the the text of interest

- The hebrew popups are still covering each other (the famous 'a' popup)

- On the Mac, OL popups bleed thru into the window above

John Fidel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1304759#Comment_1304759

Donovan,

I am not at my computer with Logos on it, but I believe if you open an Information Window in your layout these will not populate. Either that or there is an option to turn them off. I think it is the first option because all my layouts have the information window.

Brian Davidson

I agree 100%.

The information tool in Logos *could* address this if it were more customizable. Currently it is a space hog in any layout. I talked about this with Mark in one of the scheduled meet-ups they were doing a couple years ago.

Just making it so that the tool tip window could be larger would be a HUGE improvement. The information tool is never going to be as fast as the tool tip window. The information tool is trying to do way more than we want. The tooltip is exactly what were looking for, and there's no reason it should be so tiny.

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1304765#Comment_1304765

Donovan,

I am not at my computer with Logos on it, but I believe if you open an Information Window in your layout these will not populate. Either that or there is an option to turn them off. I think it is the first option because all my layouts have the information window.

Thanks John...

I use the information window in all of my layouts, but like Accordance, it is nice to be able to hoover your mouse over a word and get the basic information in a flash. I guess that is what I am advocating for. The functionality is already there, but it is being poorly presented and this just needs a programmer to make it easier to read and useable. It is purely a visual thing in relation to the overall UI.

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1304766#Comment_1304766

Just making it so that the tool tip window could be larger would be a HUGE improvement. The information tool is never going to be as fast as the tool tip window. The information tool is trying to do way more than we want. The tooltip is exactly what were looking for, and there's no reason it should be so tiny.

Yes, just even having the ability to scale that box with a setting would be huge. It is so small that it takes too much focus to read it.

Morgan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1304768#Comment_1304768

Thanks John...

I use the information window in all of my layouts, but like Accordance, it is nice to be able to hoover your mouse over a word and get the basic information in a flash. I guess that is what I am advocating for. The functionality is already there, but it is being poorly presented and this just needs a programmer to make it easier to read and useable. It is purely a visual thing in relation to the overall UI.

There is an option in the Information tool that allows update on hover vs. click. Just click the vertical dots in the top right.

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1304770#Comment_1304770

OK, I am clearly out of lane when I play with UI design. It is not my gift pack. 😕

What about, similar to the english versions where you can have a interlinear pop up on the bottom of a pane, that you can click a button that would create a space for the tool tip window? If there could be a little bit of customisation (i.e. size of font), this would go a very long way. Then as you are reading, you hoover over a greek or hebrew word, you glance at the parsing information that appears in the bottom, then your eyes return to your pointer and you continue reading. When you no longer want the tool tip window, just as you can with the english interlinear pane, you click a button and it disappears. This would be a huge productivity hack, that I would guess would not take a lot of coding as we can already put an interlinear at the bottom of a resource window in English versions.

I am sure the UI designers or users more capable in this sort of thing might have better ideas.

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1304771#Comment_1304771

There is an option in the Information tool that allows update on hover vs. click. Just click the vertical dots in the top right.

You are correct. I forgot about that!

The problem with this is that the information window is overkill and takes up a lot of screen space, which is why I suspect the tooltip popup was created. I am advocating for making it a bit easier to view.