Searching for Genitive nouns
Obviously I'm new to Logos or I wouldn't be asking such a simple question :-)
What's the quickest way to search for genitive nouns in the GNT?
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In the search panel
- select morphology search (may be under more)
- select greek bible
- enter @ which brings up a selection cheat sheet
from here selection of noun and genitive should be obvious. Note some Greek Bibles use their own morphology so you would have to make a selection other than the default Logos morphology.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Perfect! Now, let's say I wanted to find every genitive noun that is translated "Thessalonica" in the CSB. Can I somehow add that to my search string?
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INTERSECTS is the most common operator when you want two things to be the same place in the text
The resident expert on the search is Dave Hooten. He lives in Australia so he's not yet active on the forums. If you get too complex, I'll have to bow out but so far, you're in my range.
Oops, I missed the CSB part - note I switched to a Bible search but kept the same search argument.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Perfect! Now, let's say I wanted to find every genitive noun that is translated "Thessalonica" in the CSB. Can I somehow add that to my search string?
The problem with assuming "Thessalonica" is that you will get different results between translations and GNT's that have a gloss. Some translate "Thessalonian" as the place name and there are more Gen Nouns for that Greek word ( lemma.g:Θεσσαλονικεύς) than for the place (lemma.g:Θεσσαλονίκη) e.g.
Note the difference between the translations.For simplicity, you can search translations for both words with morph.g:NG INTERSECTS Thessaloni*
EDIT: I see that the different Greek words have been discussed in https://community.logos.com/forums/t/223935.aspx
Dave
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Glad to see you here active here in the forums Mark. I learned a lot from you when you were at Accordance. Feel free to ask all the questions you want! Your questions and feedback are much appreciated here in these forums!
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Thanks MJ, Dave, and Brian!
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Mark you are a rock star and legend in the Bible Software community. Always glad to see your posts!
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Thanks for the kind words Donovan!
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Perfect! Now, let's say I wanted to find every genitive noun that is translated "Thessalonica" in the CSB. Can I somehow add that to my search string?
In case you are not aware of it, the NEAR command can be very useful. I actually just built a similar search for my studies. I was interested to look at all gentives near ἐκ in 1 John.
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