How to get a Precise Search of 'All'?

So I do a search, 'All'. It is doing a Smart Search. But the result I know is available, and is found in Precise Search with Books, is not shown! Anyway - how do I get an All search with Precise? I checked the Help, it says Precise Search is the Default in two locations. But that implies there is a way not to have the default.

How do I do it? The selector that shows under Books search is not there.

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MJ. Smith

Simply use a precise search operator.

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1306525#Comment_1306525

Thanks MJ.

Wow - I am starting to have my doubts about this. I thought we were trying to move away from the old syntax. Now we have to remember when to use that based on results? With a hidden way to activate precise search, undocumented in Help (which may get fixed, but still - someone put in that Smart Search was the default). And, what parts of old syntax are necessary now....per your example, "liturgy canticle" with quotes used to work fine. Now it's an AI search.

Search is getting very complicated. How I long for Google search inside Logos/Verbum...

Thanks again for the tip!

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1306540#Comment_1306540

I thought we were trying to move away from the old syntax.

No, we are trying to have a general (AI/google-like) search for general usage and a precise search for when precision is needed. Google is absolutely useless for giving you all the examples of God in the beneficiary semantic role.

Smart Search is the new default in both All Search and Books Search. Both search types can still be run using the standard syntax in what is now called a Precise Search.

per your example, "liturgy canticle" with quotes used to work fine.

But "liturgical canticle" should have worked better.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1306540#Comment_1306540

Now we have to remember when to use that based on results?

I see it more as choosing the type of search we want - which will produce different results.

With a hidden way to activate precise search, undocumented in Help

Actually it is documented in Help - and the new Help Centre was able to find it (I was interested to see how well it would point to this type of thing)

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1306549#Comment_1306549

Understood Graham, but when you click Help for the Search feature in Verbum, this is NOT what comes up. It's only a Search help that says Smart Search is the default.

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1306553#Comment_1306553

which opens to

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1306554#Comment_1306554

I can see the value of more precision in the Search panel screens. Make the suggestion as a UI issue in the beta forum.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1306553#Comment_1306553

Understood Graham, but when you click Help for the Search feature in Verbum, this is NOT what comes up. It's only a Search help that says Smart Search is the default.

Thanks Don - I understand what you are saying now.