Is there a resource in Logos that explains the will of God, e.g. His perfect will, His sovereign will, etc.?
Have you looked at the Theology Guide or use factbook as a starting place.
I couldn't find.
Search within Thomas Aquinas’ “Summa“
Tess,
I ran a quick search in the Logos.com store for "God's will" and that search returned all kinds of results.
This will show you what can be available to you (for purchase) as well as what you already own that meets that search criteria.
Did you try the store?
I have a suggestion the following resources, which I am not aware of their contents. I don't want to spend my time on analysis and views of different denominations. Rather I would prefer Baptist and Pentecostal resources excluding clavinism and Romanism. That means I want to read the most biblically based resources. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that other denominations all have wrong interpretations. Mentioning this is according to my limited knowledge and information.
I have a suggestion the following resources... Human Freedom, Divine Knowledge, and Mere Molinism: A Biblical, Historical, Theological, and Philosophical Analysis Predestination and Free Will: Four Views of Divine Sovereignty & Human Freedom (Spectrum Multiview Books) Salvation and Sovereignty: A Molinist Approach
I have a suggestion the following resources...
Are you suggesting these resources for Logos? They have all of them already. I've added links.
I have a suggestion the following resources... Human Freedom, Divine Knowledge, and Mere Molinism: A Biblical, Historical, Theological, and Philosophical Analysis Predestination and Free Will: Four Views of Divine Sovereignty & Human Freedom (Spectrum Multiview Books) Salvation and Sovereignty: A Molinist Approach Are you suggesting these resources for Logos? They have all of them already. I've added links.
No, I am not suggesting them for Logos. They are already in Logos. I believe that anyone has his own choice what is appropriate for him or her according to his or her Blief, but in my case I don't want to go too far to read and analyze different views. My concern is to spend my time on the resources that are accepted by most Bible scholars. To be clear, I would like a suggestion from the forum participants, either these resources or others.
Romanism.
I'm confused.... isn't the best book to know God's will called the Bible?
Romanism.Tes, you probably don't know that this term is (a) inaccurate and (b) insulting. It is difficult to get Google to recognize the word because it is treated as a slur. See List of religious slurs - Wikipedia
Sorry, MJ. I misspelled it. I don't mean Romanianism, I mean Arminianism, not even excluding the denomination I belong to, since there is no perfect denomination. To be clear, I don't want to read a denominational view, but a biblical view that is compatible with the truth of the Word of God.
Rather I would prefer Baptist and Pentecostal resources...
To be clear, I don't want to read a denominational view, but a biblical view that is compatible with the truth of the Word of God.
You do realize, I hope, that these are incompatible statements. Baptist and Pentecostal are denominations.
Every denomination thinks they have the correct "biblical view" and that they understand the "truth of the Word of God". Denigrating all denominations other than one's own because you think they are not "compatible with the truth of the Word of God" is inappropriate for the forums. The truth is probably more complex than that. Each denomination probably has some truth, and we probably all need each other, else we'd err too far in the areas that we are in error.
It's virtually impossible to avoid all denominational interpretations of the Bible and only go straight for "the truth of the Word of God" because we all read the Bible through the lens we have on, which we might be unaware of. At least the denominations are self-aware that they read it through their lens. Even non-denominational churches have a lens; they are just in denial about it. Our lens includes the culture we grew up in, any prior bible teaching we have been exposed to and been persuaded by, even our gender and personality and other personal traits.
because you think they are not "compatible with the truth of the Word of God" is inappropriate for the forums.
Understood. So in this case, my choice should be to seek or concentrate on the content of the truth according to the Bible, regardless of what denomination the belief may be, since one's view differs from the other. I wanted to go the shortest way, but I could find out that it is impossible to go the way I intended. Anyway, please don't get me wrong, I am not judging any denomination to be wrong.
Even non-denominational churches have a lens; they are just in denial about it.
I am sure it was not intentional, but this statement could be considered by some as just as denigrating as those made inadvertently by Tes. Most of those who consider themselves non-denominational would agree that they do have a lens, a particular point of view. We espouse certain truths we see in Scripture and seek to live by those truths. We understand that others may have different perspectives, but most of us do try to live in harmony with others; our local church does fellowship from time to time with other churches outside our brotherhood, even those in the “denominational” world.
Most of those who consider themselves non-denominational
I take the position that since churches that reject the denominationalism theology (e.g. Catholic and Orthodox) are treated as "denominations" by those who accept denominationalism theology, that the non-denominational churches are themselves to be treated as a denomination. [8-|] The issue that denomination in common parlance and denomination in theological discourse have different meanings.
The issue that denomination in common parlance and denomination in theological discourse have different meanings.
I do strongly agree with you. [H]
To be fair, it is very easy to miscommunicate on the topic of religion. But this statement itself is mixed with a heavy dose of judgement and/or ignorance. I consider myself non-denominational and I am well aware of the fact that I see everything through a lens. Holding to the belief that faith in Jesus Christ does not require allegiance to a specific denomination does not insinuate that one is in denial about having a lens through which one reads and interprets the Bible.
To be fair, it is very easy to miscommunicate on the topic of religion
A Melkite rite priest friend loved to teach a class in Catholic apologetics. His own background was that his Mother's family was Reformed, with his Grandfather being a pastor; his father was Roman rite Catholic but his paternal grandmother was Eastern rite. Growing up, he usually attended church 3 times on Sunday. When his Mother was an elderly widow, she followed her friends to a Southern retirement community. The priest had a comedy routine based on his Mother's reports of trying to find a home church. One of her major criteria was the quality of the music; another was the dress code. It was hysterically funny to Catholics who may parish shop or even rite shop but never denomination shop. The closest we could imagine was people sliding between Orthodox and Catholic to get a service in the familiar language. Recent Protestant converts had to have it explained why it was so funny to a Catholic. The whole purpose was to illustrate how differently the words "looking for a home church" were interpreted within different Christian Churches. And how the first step of apologetics was to check that you all meant the same thing by the same words.
The whole purpose was to illustrate how differently the words "looking for a home church" were interpreted within different Christian Churches. And how the first step of apologetics was to check that you all meant the same thing by the same words.
Thank you for the story and the well-made point in conclusion. Indeed, a lot of bickering could be avoided if more effort was put into first bringing clarification to one another's perspectives and language.
Even non-denominational churches have a lens; they are just in denial about it. To be fair, it is very easy to miscommunicate on the topic of religion. But this statement itself is mixed with a heavy dose of judgement and/or ignorance.
To be fair, it is very easy to miscommunicate on the topic of religion. But this statement itself is mixed with a heavy dose of judgement and/or ignorance.
I apologize for my statement. It wasn't what I was intending to communicate. But I'll leave it with an apology rather than try to go on further and explain what I was trying to say, which was probably also misinformed.
I'll leave it with an apology rather than try to go on further and explain what I was trying to say, which was probably also misinformed.
Perhaps one reason I have not aligned myself with a denomination is because I too am misinformed to the extent of not being able to find a good fit [:D]. In truth, I simply love seeing the church focus on the elements that unite us rather than divide. In some ways this aspiration runs parallel to that of the Catholic church, as MJ hinted towards.
