Quick inline search for a NT Greek word in the LXX
Greetings. I would like to have a quick way to do the following. In a NT Greek resource, click on the word, and from the context menu for that word, do an inline search in the LXX.
This question has been asked before in 2009 ( https://community.logos.com/forums/p/5246/1308754.aspx#1308754 ) but I was encouraged to ask again to maintain relevancy. I did not find an adequate answer in the 2009 post.
At present, my manual approach is the following: Selecting the word in question in the NT Greek resource, doing an inline search for that word from the context menu, selecting and copying the search term, opening the LXX resource, doing an inline search there for some other word, pasting the original search term in, adding the words "gr." to the term, and then performing the search. (I.e., changing lemma.g:πνεῦμα to lemma.gr.g:πνεῦμα) That is what I manually do at present but I am hoping for something more streamlined. I do LXX searches on NT Greek words all the time.
Someone in the previous question suggested the following in 2009 (slightly edited by me):
you could create a custom guide consisting only of the "Septuagint Translation" component. This would end up on your right-click, so you could get the same info without running a full BWS. If you go to Tools, select "Guide Editor". Make sure "Kind: word" (far left of window) is selected. Select the "Septuagint Translation" component, name the guide whatever you'd like, and that should be it.
I followed the above instructions and successfully added my own guide (which I called LXX Search). That then appeared in the context menu for a Greek word in a New Testament Greek resource. However, the section is blank upon searching for a word. Nothing appears but the explanation about the search "This section displays a graph of Hebrew words...". I can't get it to successfully search in the LXX.
Can anyone help, please? Thanks!
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See if this works:
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As you can see, I just opened the NA28 on the left and then opened Swete's LXX on the right. Clicked the INLINE SEARCH on Swete's text. Right clicked a word on the NA28 and clicked SEARCH next to COPY REFERENCE. then moved my arrow to the INLINE SEARCH field, right clicked there and pasted my search term there and hit enter. Hope this helps.
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What you describe is basically my manual method right now. But I'm hoping for a quicker more streamlined way, straight from the context menu. I also can't search my LXX without adding "gr." in the search term. It's a bit of a pain, especially when you search for multiple words - the cursor keeps jumping around too.
Here's my support information for the LXX resource.
LLS:1.0.301
2021-10-22T14:35:14Z
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Matthew Van Dyken said:
changing lemma.g:πνεῦμα to lemma.gr.g:πνεῦμα
Your NT and your LXX use two different morphologies (Logos vs GRAMCORD™). This process will be a lot simpler if you can use a Septuagint that's also tagged with the Logos morphology.
Furthermore, "lemma.gr.g:πνεῦμα" is only supported by the LXX resource with ID LLS:1.0.301, which is a deprecated resource we strongly recommend hiding and no longer using:
- https://community.logos.com/forums/p/62682/442248.aspx#442248
- https://community.logos.com/forums/p/175705/1014888.aspx#1014888
We recommend using one of these Septuagints instead:
- https://www.logos.com/product/249858/septuagint-rahlfs-with-reverse-interlinear
- https://www.logos.com/product/25421/septuagint-with-logos-morphology
- https://www.logos.com/product/10494/the-old-testament-in-greek-according-to-the-septuagint
- https://www.logos.com/product/25381/the-old-testament-in-greek-according-to-the-septuagint
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Matthew Van Dyken said:
you could create a custom guide consisting only of the "Septuagint Translation" component. This would end up on your right-click, so you could get the same info without running a full BWS. If you go to Tools, select "Guide Editor". Make sure "Kind: word" (far left of window) is selected. Select the "Septuagint Translation" component, name the guide whatever you'd like, and that should be it.
I've done something similar - but just used a Septuagint Translation section (each section can be used standalone) and put it in a linkset with a Bible.
Then clicking a word in the Bible will update the guide section to show where that lemma appears in the LXX
Please give this a try
If it doesn't work for you then it is probably you don't have some of the required resources to enable this functionality.
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This all worked very well, thank-you. I purchased one of the newer LXXs (Septuagint with Logos Morphology), which also connects better to the other Logos resources.
Now Brian's manual inline search is much easier (now no need to add in the "gr." part, thanks also for the "Copy reference: Search" suggestion). And I also got Graham's working method working too.
I will compare which method is easier and quicker. Thanks!
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Don't forget the simplest way to get the inline search
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