How do I find ר (Resh) with דגש קל (dagesh lene).

Printed editions of the Hebrew Bible vary in regards to the number of Resh with דגש קל/Dagesh lene. Some have 19 occurances while others have 17 or 15. I am curious how electronic or digital editions of the Hebrew Bible handly this phenomenon.

הַרְּאִיתֶם֙ is an example of this in 2 kings 6:32 :

QUESTION:

Using Logos 10 desktop is it possible to search for Resh with Dagesh lene?

And, if yes how does one do so?

Thanks in advance

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Justin Gatlin

I don't know how to search for a single letter. The form for a word is match.dagesh:word. But trying to play with wildcards and putting *רְּ* doesn't return any results.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309381#Comment_1309381

Using a Find allows letter by letter searching. AFAIK a search does not ... or, at least, not efficiently enough to be useful.

BKMitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309430#Comment_1309430

But trying to play with wildcards and putting *רְּ* doesn't return any results.

Thank you! I am trying still nothing, yet.

Using a Find allows letter by letter searching. AFAIK a search does not ... or, at least, not efficiently enough to be useful.

Using a FIND?

Okay I typed FIND and רּ but I am not getting anything

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309483#Comment_1309483

Try the panel menu (three dots) at the top ... it is a character by character match.

BKMitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309484#Comment_1309484

Try the panel menu (three dots) at the top ...

Okay I clicked on the three dots

And then I tried to search but nothing happen other than the box turned pink..

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309488#Comment_1309488

I think the Find MJ is referring to is actually invoked by either Ctrl-F or Cmf-F (depending on platform) and then entering the search term in the box that pops up at the top right.

But it is quite limited - will be interesting to see if it gives you what you are looking for.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309488#Comment_1309488

turning pink means no matches/no more matches

what I get from a test case ...

So, it may not work ... but for reasons I don't understand. There is something "special" as to how it is treating Hebrew.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309489#Comment_1309489

either Ctrl-F or Cmf-F

Right. I tend to point people towards menus rather than keyboard shortcuts ...

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309491#Comment_1309491

either Ctrl-F or Cmf-F

Right. I tend to point people towards menus rather than keyboard shortcuts ...

Understood - apologies

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309492#Comment_1309492

Understood - apologies

No problem. But I am puzzled by why it doesn't appear to work. I thought it was a simple byte-by-byte match ... an exact match ... but it seems to be adding some other criteria into the Hebrew.

BKMitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309493#Comment_1309493

Believe it or not! My search crashed Logos! I can't remember ever crashing Logos before!

I was trying the following match.dagesh:?רּ* and soon as the search began Logos crashed

BKMitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309502#Comment_1309502

The form for a word is match.dagesh:word. But trying to play with wildcards and putting *רְּ* doesn't return any results.

The following match.dagesh:*רּ* picks up 9 hits that is a nice start! Butit is less that the 17 or 19 hits I had hope to get. I guess I will play around with this one more...

Christian Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309502#Comment_1309502

I was trying the following match.dagesh:?רּ* and soon as the search began Logos crashed

You may want to try this search again and enable diagnostic logging. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360027869132-How-to-Enable-and-Submit-Log-Files

BKMitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309526#Comment_1309526

You may want to try this search again and enable diagnostic logging. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360027869132-How-to-Enable-and-Submit-Log-Files

Thank you I will try that

BKMitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309800#Comment_1309800

Is seem like Logos should be able to search for a ר (Resh) with דגש קל (dagesh lene) but I can't seem to figure out.

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309503#Comment_1309503

The form for a word is match.dagesh:word. But trying to play with wildcards and putting *רְּ* doesn't return any results.

The following match.dagesh:*רּ* picks up 9 hits that is a nice start! Butit is less that the 17 or 19 hits I had hope to get. I guess I will play around with this one more...

I get 11 results in the Lexham Hebrew Bible. I don't know what I was doing wrong before. But I found a list in Notes on the Hebrew Text and Topography of the Books of Samuel that you might find interesting. I just did an all search for match.dagesh:רּ.

BKMitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309964#Comment_1309964

I get 11 results in the Lexham Hebrew Bible. I don't know what I was doing wrong before. But I found a list in Notes on the Hebrew Text and Topography of the Books of Samuel that you might find interesting. I just did an all search for match.dagesh:רּ.

Thank you for sharing Gatlin! That is very interesting!

Christian Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309502#Comment_1309502

RE the crash see this post. https://community.logos.com/forums/t/224526.aspx

Christian Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309502#Comment_1309502

RE the crash see this post. https://community.logos.com/forums/t/224526.aspx

Christian Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309502#Comment_1309502

RE the crash see this post. https://community.logos.com/forums/t/224526.aspx

Christian Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1309502#Comment_1309502

RE the crash see this post. https://community.logos.com/forums/t/224526.aspx