Subscriptions: feature oriented x content oriented

Hello,

I'm not getting a lot of info about the 'content' part of subscriptions. I guess I'm not the only one interested in books and not in 'features'. Bear with me while I explain it.

When I use MS Word, I use it as a glorified 'notepad'. I write articles, research, classes etc. Rarely I use any 'feature'. If they had a cheaper 'stripped down' version, I would use it instead of buying something that promises a ton a fireworks as features, which I use none.

As a Logos (Verbum) user, I open books and research. Most of the time, manually. What is great about it? Opening many books at once, searching (manually) quickly, and not carrying 20 heavy books, commentaries, lexicons to my table and slowly scanning and searching each one. But I don't use features. I don't even use the 'search' for finding my verses or summarizing (I need to see the 'big picture' in context easily).

That said, I'm getting a lot about AI and clearly a 'feature oriented' Logos subscription in the future. And, as you can guess by now, I have no interest in that. If that's a 'plus' on a nice 'content oriented' subscription, great. Otherwise, I guess people like myself (I'm betting there are many) are not getting excited about the future Logos vision. It seems it's a little 'flash blinded' by the 'pretty lights of AI possibilities' and losing track of content oriented users-customers.

I also have a quite large amount of books for research. I saw a post about subscriptions making about 400 books available. Since many Logos users already bought expensive huge packages (and bought thousands more over the years), chances are we already have those. And I'm guessing most language resources, big encyclopedia collections, will not be available through subscriptions.

So, I guess the questions are:

- how 'content oriented' is Logos subscription?

- what resources (books etc) will be available on a monthly basis?

- will there be a difference in 'feature oriented' and 'content oriented' subscriptions?

- with such large collections already, how subscriptions will allow me to get what I still don't have, and not have a predetermined collection available (which I probably already have)? Will there be flexibility on content? Maybe a number of books available to use per month, and not a fixed list?

- a number of books-uses per month seems way more interesting than a fixed list and 'features', 'AI possibilities' etc to me and others. While others will like the features etc. Will we get both possibilities?

- it has been painful to get corrections and updates on some resources. Especially the languages. With this 'subscription vision' directed to (and blinded by) 'AI possibilities', what are we to expect on the attention to corrections and updates on resources? Again, since 'content' seems to be going to the back-burner (and pretty lights to the front), what is the future of my content on Logos?

I hope a more content oriented subscription model will be available. With more flexibility on the using of books etc. And more clarity on what will be available on the resources front.

Thanks and God bless.

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DMB

If I read you correctly, why do you want a subscription? Logos promises the app will remain free, and your books are there for your enjoyment. I'd think all is well, for your use-case? The subscription is for bells and whistles.

Actually, I'm similar to you (I think). I believe in reading authors ... understanding their ideas. Not searching bits and pieces, and summaries.

Mateus de Castro

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1311350#Comment_1311350

Thanks.

My point is about having a subscription that would cover cases like mine. May be more a suggestion, but I'm getting the feeling that the 'pitch' about the subscriptions was based on feature and content. But I'm not getting a lot about content.

And, yes. If it's all about bells and whistles, I will keep out of it.

The thing is: I guess they shouldn't ignore the amount of customers like me, but hey, what do I know about their business?

But a little more on the 'content' front would be good.

Mateus de Castro

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1311352#Comment_1311352

I'll try to make myself clear on the topic.

Let's say I subscribe and could consult 100 more books for research for some months, and also learn a language using some very specific (and expensive) resources, and read some devotionals while at it.

I wouldn't mind not getting all those books in the end, in case I cancel my subscription or change resources (on a limited monthly resources-uses option, for example).

Instead of spending thousands on resources I may never open again, I would be glad to pay for a subscription that allowed me to add value to my already bought library for much less monthly. And skip the payment plans for good.

So, using books on a subscription would be good. But, again, if by 'subscription' Logos will only ever mean 'features', I'm probably out.

Thanks and God bless.

Frank Sauer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1311353#Comment_1311353

If what you're looking for in relation to content. Each subscription level will include books - https://www.logos.com/early-access/subscriptions

You can see what books you would have for each level at that link. The license is currently temporary, so your access would be dependent on remaining subscribed.

It has been stated that you can continue to purchase books and collections regardless of subscription status, but also been stated that new packages would only be offered to subscription users.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1311352#Comment_1311352

But I'm not getting a lot about content.

That is because the subscriptions related to features not content ... the subscription includes some resources so that the features have something to work with but the content - libraries, collections, and individual books - are split off as a separate marketing issue. I would expect to see a major announcement on new libraries in September although it is based on suppositions not inside knowledge.

The people like yourself who want information on content should simply assume that for content there is little change, but new libraries are on their way. The people unlike yourself who want information on features, have spent many weeks of conversation with Logos helping Logos hash out the details simply because Logos chose to give amply notice of major changes in how feature development and funding is to be handled.