BUG: Layout not Retaining Floating Window Size and Position
In Logos bible software for Windows (Logos Bible Study 35.0.520), how do I lock the size and position of floating windows? I have (many times) saved a named layout with all the floating windows I require, laid out as I want them. The floating windows never remember their size and position when recalling the layout - either during a session or when the saved layout is set to the default one to be opened at startup. I want the floating windows to remember their positions so the layout will be the same each time I start Logos. Is that even possible? I have two 4k monitors. One is my laptop's built-in screen and the other is external.
TIA
Ron
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I'm sure it used to remember Ron but you are right it seems to have forgotten.
I am on a Mac so the amnesia seems to be cross platform
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Mike
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My layout with six windows has been as I want (sizes, positions), since maybe early 2023 (I do a re-save several times a day). So, I'm guessing I'm misunderstanding. I'm on a MBP.
OTOH, I also stopped updating Verbum early this year. Since then?
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I don't use Verbum, but I have several layouts with multiple floating windows in each layout. I just tried it on vs 35, (Logos Pro) and mine seems to work like I laid them out. Maybe I'm missing something...???
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I've "attached" a couple of screen shots showing the layout I set up and save. My saved layout is set as the default to use on startup.
After closing Logos and restarting, the layout on screen 1 (laptop) is fine. The layout on screen 2 is as shown in the second "Screen 2" image in the attached doc. There are only 3 floating windows visible, not 4, all with incorrect position and size.
Interestingly, the Screen 2 layout that appears on restart, while not what I want, and certainly not the layout that was saved, does consistently start with the windows in the same (incorrect) screen positions and the same (incorrect) size. So "something" is being remembered.
Mind you, to get the main (home) screen to open full-screen on the laptop, I had to use the Windows "hack" and "Shift + close (x)" on the Logos main (home) screen. So it's actually MS Windows that is remembering the position of the main (home) screen, not Logos.
Ron
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BTW, I'm now on 36.0.733
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Ron said:
I've "attached" a couple of screen shots
Hi Rod
I would help to use either the Paper Clip or the Amber icon in the toolbar above when attaching screenshots.
Some, me included, have an aversion to clicking on random links.
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Mike
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Hi Mike,
I understand your concern, though I don't share it.
FYI, the previously attached file is a PDF containing the screen shots. It was added using the "paperclip" icon.
So the link is not random, though it is, of course, unknown to you. The link is generated by the Forum application.
Same file inserted from Amber. Logos Layout.pdf
(https://files.logoscdn.com/v1/files/79781407/assets/16278800/content.pdf?signature=F5qxE7Cnsh2QBiI1GJyYuZ849MM)
Regards
Ron
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Ron said:
I understand your concern, though I don't share it.
What Mike is trying to say is that just as I bypass all posts using dark mode screen shots (I can't read them), there are many forum users who will bypass posts requiring them to open an external file. It was a hint telling you how to get broader exposure.
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I've been noticing this problem for a long time. And it's very annoying for people like me who open the main Logos window and some floating windows and save in Layouts.
I just thought it was a problem not with Logos, but with Microsoft Windows. If Faithlife can fix it, that would be great.____________
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Hi Anderson,
It is good to know that I'm not alone! It could be a Windows problem, you are right in that. However it could also be the way that Faithlife have implemented their application. Perhaps the developers have not completely or incorrectly followed Microsoft's methods for the "windows management" interface. I have noticed this in other desktop applications where windows management does not work as expected.
It would be great to get a insider's view from Faithlife. Windows management is a pretty basic, core function for applications being developed for an OS called "Windows"!
Mind you, I am on Windows 11 with two 4K monitors and I am using the new windows location shortcuts now available to automatically divide monitors' real estate according to some preset layouts.
If I start Logos, it will use my saved layout but scatter the floating panels on the second screen (where they should be, but not where they were when I saved the layout).
On startup the floating panels always end up in the same location with the same size - so either Logos or Windows remembers some location and size information.
Once I have (again) set up the layout I want (one floating panel in each quarter of the screen), if I then grab a floating panel from its Window-set location (say top right quarter of the second monitor) and I move it, it collapses in to the size and position that Logos put it on startup. It does seem bizarre behaviour - then again I'm not a Windows application developer.
It could be, that the floating panels are "spawned" from the main Logos application, and so MS Windows does not have complete control over the floating panels.
So much speculation, so few answers!
Ron
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Ron said:
It is good to know that I'm not alone! It could be a Windows problem, you are right in that. However it could also be the way that Faithlife have implemented their application.
I remember that it used to work properly
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