Link resources to verse in the middle of the page/screen.

Thomas pujol
Thomas pujol Member Posts: 17
edited November 21 in English Forum

I don't know how many people read this way, but when I read, I tend to have the verse I am focused on near the middle of the page. However, when I link commentaries and other resources to my Bible, I have to put the verse at the top of the screen, even past the top sometimes. 

Would it not be better to either change it, or have some flexibility regarding where on the page the verse that controls linked resources rests? Maybe there is a way to do this that I don't know about?

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have often wished that I could simply select the text to be used for the URL.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    Would it not be better to either change it, or have some flexibility regarding where on the page the verse that controls linked resources rests? Maybe there is a way to do this that I don't know about?

    There is no other way. But linking with Commentaries is not precise because of their choice of versification (e.g. a summary range followed by comment on one or multiple verses). A choice of commentaries via Multiple Books display with your Bible will allow you to scroll a commentary independently of the bible.

    Linking with other bibles would allow your focus to be closer to the middle.

    Dave
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  • Thomas pujol
    Thomas pujol Member Posts: 17

    Thank you for the reply. 

    I tried what you said, but when Bible's are linked it is not so much that the "focus verse" is in the middle of the page/screen, but that that they sync together, so you can look at whatever verse you want. Maybe a screen shot will help elucidate what I'm talking about. Notice that the exegetical summary is on verse 17, but my bible that is linked to it is on verse 18 at the top. Thus the verse I am examining is not even visible in the ESV. If the commentaries liked to the verse in the middle of the page, then I would be able to look back and forth at the translation provided by the exegetical summary and the ESV. Even when the verse is visible, is in in a spot my eye is not accustomed to looking: the very top of the screen. 

    Thank you both for your replies, maybe someone at Logos will look at it.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    Thank you both for your replies, maybe someone at Logos will look at it.

    A similar question was discussed some time ago and continuing to link references to the top of the panel/page was FL's conclusion.

    I tried what you said, but when Bible's are linked it is not so much that the "focus verse" is in the middle of the page/screen, but that that they sync together, so you can look at whatever verse you want. Maybe a screen shot will help elucidate what I'm talking about.

    Syncing together is only possible if the versification and formatting of the books is exactly the same. You can Reformat bibles to achieve that e.g. one verse per line with chapter/verse numbers. But you cannot look at "whatever verse you want" with commentaries, which your example illustrates only too well.

    In the example below I have reformatted ESV to one verse per line to match the LSB in Multiple Books display.
    But the commentary is a different matter.....

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    In scrolling to verse 24, the NIVAC Romans commentary display has remained as shown since the ESV was at v.11. But if you scroll the commentary it will reveal comments on verses in between. When the ESV is scrolled to v.25 the NIVAC commentary will move to a new heading:  Romans 11:25-32, achieving a brief alignment of sorts.  NICNT Romans is a much better choice as it has verse-by-verse comments  for the most part and will retain sync with the ESV.

    Dave
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  • Thomas pujol
    Thomas pujol Member Posts: 17

    Thank you for taking the time to answer and for the explanatory screen shot. 

    Perhaps I can use your screen shot to explain what I mean. 

    It makes more sense to me that the verse to focus on would be verse 25, rather than verse 24. Does your eye go to the verse at the very top of the screen? Am I the only one that finds it more natural to look at verse 25 than verse 24?

    I do realize that when you format several bibles side by side this works well. But I don't really do that, and I don't find that way of reading helpful. My habit is to use commentaries that provide verse by verse comments, and use those. 

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    Perhaps I can use your screen shot to explain what I mean. 

    It makes more sense to me that the verse to focus on would be verse 25, rather than verse 24

    I have understood your need, but wanted to clarify that verse alignment and, especially, verse-by-verse commentaries are necessary, whilst independent scrolling would be needed to achieve that with stellar commentaries that are not verse-by-verse.

    Dave
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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,408 ✭✭✭

    I don't know how many people read this way, but when I read, I tend to have the verse I am focused on near the middle of the page.

    This doesn't help you (for mid-panel linking, which isn't currently possible).

    But I 'solve' the focus problem, but using a Multiple Book Display (my Bible as lead, my commentaries follow). Then, I narrow my Bible column to strictly the verse I'm studying. My commentaries remain at thir usual column widths.  I don't keep losing my eye-place!

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