Doing a search

Berechiah
Berechiah Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

I wasn't to search the word "saviour"

But I don't want to limit it to just that word 

I want all variations of the word. 

How to I use search for this?

I have logos max an L10 full features 

Can anyone help 

Thanks 

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  • Berechiah
    Berechiah Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭

    Or even a random word 

    Say... Sky... Or house 

    Can I do a search for all types of that word

    Dose it go back to the greek?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,415

    Search Panel Options – Verbum Support

    see Match all forms option. Note not all languages support stemming which is the process behind this when texts are tagged by lemma.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,415

    Berechiah said:

    Can I do a search for all types of that word

    Dose it go back to the greek?

    That is a simple lemma search in morphologically tagged texts.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Berechiah
    Berechiah Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭

    I've been using logos for over six months now I have invested time and effort into learning 

    I don't mean to be a novice but would you tell me how to do what you just said because I'm typing it doesn't seem to do what I'm looking for

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,637

    Berechiah said:

    I don't mean to be a novice but would you tell me how to do what you just said because I'm typing it doesn't seem to do what I'm looking for

    I'm not sure which part of MJ's advice you are referring to - hopefully these examples will help a bit

    If I do a Bible search for the word save I get results for verses containing that word

    But if I enable forms matching - click the icon at the top right - I get results containing different forms of that word

    Does this help at all?

    And I don't understand your question above about how this relates to Greek - please clarify

  • Berechiah
    Berechiah Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭

    Thank you I will give it a go now 

    What I meant by the Greek is do I need to find the word I want to search for in English just suppose "Heaven"

    Do I need to find out in the Greek or Hebrew depending which one it is and do a search on the Hebrew or Greek word of that and then that in itself finds the variations of that word. 

    I suppose I kinda answered my question 

    But that seems to be a little hard.

    What you searched for seems right if I do that with the word heaven.. will it show sky space atmosphere... 

    But it helps I will try it. 

    Does the morph function just find this every variation of that word?

    I tried typing the word but I didn't get anything else but the same word I searched for no variations

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,637

    Berechiah said:

    What you searched for seems right if I do that with the word heaven.. will it show sky space atmosphere... 

    Sorry - I thought you were looking for variations on a word not looking for different words with similar or related meaning

    There are some techniques that could help (looking at Louw-Nida searches in the New Testament for example - see https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035612451-Semantic-Domains#louw-nida for some context on this)

    But, overall, I can't think of any way of doing what I think you are asking for because I'm not sure how you are grouping things together - and I don't think the software groups them that way either.

    For example, you seem to be suggesting that words like heaven, sky and space are similar / related - but I would see them as very different things.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,415

    Berechiah said:

    What you searched for seems right if I do that with the word heaven.. will it show sky space atmosphere.

    Okay, you are asking multiple questions with different answers

    The translation wheels in an English word Bible Word Study guide will give you the various words in Greek and Hebrew that are translated by the English word.

    Explore the Bible sense lexicon for possibilities for near synonyms which I think is what you mean by "every variation of that word"

    Graham's suggestion of using semantic domains is also a solid approach.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Berechiah
    Berechiah Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭

    I am actually asking multiple questions and I didn't even know it to be honest. I'm just trying to get my head around it a bit. I love love but it's still new to me. 

    With your help I was able to do the searchs I wanted. 

    Thanks for being patient 

    God bless 

  • Berechiah
    Berechiah Member Posts: 181 ✭✭✭

    Your right I am asking questions all over the place. I guess one lead to another but what I wanted to do is done now. 

    The wheels are actually perfect too 

    There is another way to do what I need 

    Thanks again 

    Your very kind to reply 

    🙏