Tried to use Logos on my iPod Touch for my bible at church today.
I tried to use the Logos App a my bible in church today. It was pretty much unusable in its current form. It is just too slow. At the church, they have wireless, but I had not connected to it. I don't know if that made a difference.
The pastor moves fairly quickly because they display the verse (not in context of course) on the screen. I like to follow in a bible so I can see the context, but you have to be quick. Logos isn't. The pastor had long since read the verses and moved on. I gave up as I spent most of the time looking at the spinning pizza.
I tried typing in a reference rather than using the chooser, and accidentally mispelled the reference. This caused a multi minute delay with the spinning pizza. After a couple of minutes, I restarted the application.
Just changing the ipod orientation from landscape to/from portrait takes over 7 seconds to redraw the screen.
Opening a verse is 11 seconds plus the time to open the chooser dialogue (2-5+ seconds) (for a total of 13-20 seconds.
Look at what the main competition can do and you can see what this app needs to do. The chooser opens in under a second. Once you go through the selection of the book, chapter and verse, the bible opens in under a second. You can follow along in real time with this kind of response.
Logos needs to be a lot faster for moving between verses, especially if the bible I am moving through is on the device.
Also, it would be nice if all the books of the bible showed up on one screen rather than having 2Peter through Revelation off the bottom when selecting books using the chooser.
Regards,
Clinton
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Do you have an older version of the iPod..? Because on my iPod Touch it is almost instantly: using the chooser; turning to landscape and so on. On my mobile phone (not iPhone) I am using a S60 Bible which has a VERY intuitive and FAST interface. But whatever device you have..a paper Bible is faster provided you know the order of the biblebooks by heart.
Luuk
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I would say definitely connect to the wireless, but even then, after the Bible is up, it should be fairly quick.
In fact, I use my Iphone to preach from, so it works quickly enough for me.
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I use my Iphone to preach from,
Really? What app do you use? And maybe a quick rundown on how you use it?
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In fact, I use my Iphone to preach from, so it works quickly enough for me.
Huh?
Now THAT'S interesting.
Robert Pavich
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I would say definitely connect to the wireless, but even then, after the Bible is up, it should be fairly quick.
In fact, I use my Iphone to preach from, so it works quickly enough for me.
Hey, what is your phone number and what time is church? [;)]
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In fact, I use my Iphone to preach from, so it works quickly enough for me.
I've been pondering trying that. I use my iPhone when I use a Keynote presentation (not uncommon for Wednesday services) but still use dead trees for Sunday services. I do plan that when I can afford an iPad, I'll use the iPad instead of printing my notes. Haven't tried the iPhone for that yet.
What is your method? I would just view my Pages doc on the iPhone and scroll through it on there, but what has worked for you?
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I use my iPad for teaching and preaching. When I write a sermon or Bible study I compose it in manuscript format. I actually paste the verses directly into my document from L4, so when I read a passage I am reading it directly from the embedded Scripture in my notes.
I type everything in Google Docs (and I keep everything filed in Google Docs), then I download my sermon or Bible study in PDF format to my iPad using Goodreader. I have the Apple iPad cover, which is black, so it looks like I am holding a Bible (which I am because I have the Bible on my iPad). I stopped using a lectern or a pulpit and simply hold my iPad in my hand, like I would my leather Bible. I have been experimenting with this for three weeks. I think I like this method.
Before I used the iPad, I asked a couple of (brutally honest) people to let me know if it was distracting or detracted from the message. The consensus was unanimous that it did not and that in fact, they forgot, after about a minute, that I was using the iPad.
Elder/Pastor, Hope Now Bible Church, Fresno CA
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Sorry about not getting back until now. I have an Iphone 3gs which is fairly quick when I use it. I go up to the podium with my sermons on paper, but I use the Iphone to read Scripture from. Re-reading my post, it seems as if I came across as having everything written down on my Iphone, so I'm sorry for that. I was mainly speaking about reading the BIble as the original poster was speaking of. I can read the Bible on my Iphone with very quick verse changes. After the Bible portion on the Iphone is loaded up, it is simply moving from verse to verse. Keep in mind, I mainly do expository preaching, so I don't go to a bunch of different Scriptures.
What I am hoping for though, is that when the Iphone update comes through that allows for more multi-tasking, that I can switch from my notes and back to my Logos with just my Iphone. We will have to see when that comes through though. Again, sorry that it seemed like I ONLY used my Iphone. I was mainly speaking about using the Iphone for reading the Scriptures during the preaching.
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Keep in mind, I mainly do expository preaching, so I don't go to a bunch of different Scriptures.
Why would those go together? I preach expository sermons and in the course of a sermon I'm relating the current text to passages all around the Bible. Expository sermons work well with the principle that Scripture interprets Scripture.
What I'm about to play with is using Evernote for my sermon notes. I'm trying to further divorce myself from my printed notes. Playing with the Evernote app, it makes scrolling around easy and doesn't lose place if orientation changes (though I wish there were an orientation lock!) so it should suffice for preaching. I'll probably give it a try this coming Sunday night and see how it goes.
As for my Scripture, I couldn't make do with looking up the references on the fly. I always have the text included with my notes. Well, I say always, but lately I've just read the Scripture off the wall, a la Francis Chan.
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but lately I've just read the Scripture off the wall
I am sure that years and years ago, reading scripture "off the wall", used to be a metaphorical expression; not a literal one!!!
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