"New" — When does this go away?

Brian Davidson
Brian Davidson Member Posts: 812 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Would love this distracting little blue button to go away soon. It feels to me like a little piece of marketing inside of my book. I know it's supposed to be helpful, but to me it is distracting.

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  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 734 ✭✭

    Would love this distracting little blue button to go away soon

    I agree. It also occupies space on the toolbar, causing "more" to appear prematurely. 

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 734 ✭✭
  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 734 ✭✭

    I don't see it in Logos 37.0.667. Do you?

    Yes (using Windows desktop).

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭

    I don't see it in Logos 37.0.667. Do you?

    You are missing out.  I have it on 37.0.667

    If I click the shiny bright New button, it takes me here:
    FEEDBACK WANTED: New Resource Toolbar on Desktop - Logos Forums 


  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,837 ✭✭✭

    I don't see it in Logos 37.0.667. Do you?

    It's part of the new resource toolbar, i.e. it is visible under Logos 37 only to subscribers.

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭

    Would love this distracting little blue button to go away soon

    I agree. It also occupies space on the toolbar, causing "more" to appear prematurely. 

    Depending on the width of your panel, you will see New without More. In my case More includes Tools and Share but New, though not visible, influences what goes into More.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 601 ✭✭

    It;s not marketing, it's a shortcut to provide feedback.  I am sure I will go away soon enough. It is particularly relevant to at the moment to collect feedback from the wider group. It probably should say "feedback" rather than "New"

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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭

    little blue button to go away soon.

    Contrary to most of this thread, I believe pointing out new features is helpful for one who has used LBS for decades (my old habits can be revised). One suggestion would be to have notifications like this on a 6-week cycle. If constant improvement is truly the goal (as it was back in Logos Now), it would be acceptable [to me] to notify a "new" feature until the next (6-week) release.

    I needed the "NEW" button to help me find the read aloud feature this week in my daily Bible reading layout--moved from the "Kabob menu" to the "toolbar"

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭

    Welll... I have determined I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. lol.  I have 37.0.667....  but I don't see "New" anywhere. Maybe I got the "good release"... lol [8-|]

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 734 ✭✭

    If constant improvement is truly the goal (as it was back in Logos Now), it would be acceptable [to me] to notify a "new" feature until the next (6-week) release.
    Yes, ok, but it doesn't have to permanently occupy the space of a tab on the toolbar. It wouldn't bother me if it was just a notification, but it shrinks my toolbar space, forcing "more" to appear when it otherwise wouldn't be necessary, and cannot be removed. It's not terrible, but it's a significant enough annoyance to justify mention.
  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭

    it's a significant enough annoyance to justify mention.

    I guess "significant enough" is a judgment made by individual users impacted by the resolution of their monitor. It is a much bigger percentage of the toolbar on my default monitor on my portable Microsoft Surface Pro

    Than it is on my connected 27" UHD desktop monitor

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  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 734 ✭✭

    I guess "significant enough" is a judgment made by individual users
    Absolutely [:)]. Personally, I enjoy working/reading with multiple resource panels open.

    Tbh, this doesn't concern me. I'm sure it'll go away before too long. But in general I do prefer the type of notification that the user has the option to remove.

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭

    I enjoy working/reading with multiple resource panels open

    My sermon prep layout (multiple panels) is all but useless on my smaller monitor. But this reveals the "more" problem to the other extreme. I get "more" whether the NEW button is there or not.

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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭

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  • Brian Davidson
    Brian Davidson Member Posts: 812 ✭✭

    I don't understand why this New button is still on the toolbar. I get it during a beta cycle, but is the intention to leave this here for a long period of time? We don't have little blue sticky note New buttons like this for other new features. It seems so bizarre to leave this here post-beta.

    Every time I see this button it strikes me as a price tag stuck on the front of a book that I can't take off. 

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It seems so bizarre to leave this here post-beta.

    It is a reasonable way to direct and control feedback/training issues when the feature first hits the broader user base. Beta testers are not a representative cross-section.

    New button is still on the toolbar.

    I have absolutely no insider information, but I would be surprised if it disappeared in less than a month and would not be surprised if it stayed until the next release on the 6 week cycle.

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  • James Chandler
    James Chandler Member Posts: 402 ✭✭

    I also like to have more real estate on my screen. Especially now that my eyes are getting older and more tired from squinting.

    Running on ASUS Windows 10 I7 24 gig of ram, 1 Terabyte drive.

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