Why I am disappointed (a bit) with the recent library release ...

MJ. Smith
MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,405
edited November 21 in English Forum

Usually, a major release has contained a data upgrade of some sort. Given the work that has been done on the application towards integrating the data - think particularly of the reworked Factbook sections "People, Places, Things" and "Biblical Events," I was hoping to see some expansion of data to support the integration. For example, Biblical Events now includes much of the labeled events data under "featured". This was not a use envisioned by the users suggesting topics and therefore, there are many holes in the data ... humorous holes when you look at it from the perspective of a single Biblical person. I was hoping that some of these holes might be filled e.g. type-scenes (barren woman, woman at the well ...), name changes, prophetic calls ... I hope someone is at least working on identifying these holes or I am going to be disappointed for a long time.

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭

    I must admit, I was thinking surely in the next six, twelve or eighteen weeks of release cycles we would see some movement in data. Why? I had expectations in this ‘new era’ we would see some new developments, and I expected more on this launch.

    Maybe this is amplified by the new 2025 libraries not grabbing my attention. I think I have purchased a new library by this time with every new release. For this new bundle of libraries, I might finally make a modest purchase in the next month or so, but there was nothing on release night to keep me up to see what I can’t wait to add.

    Maybe this is amplified that as early access subscribers we already had most of the new cool tools. Smart Search and the new Dynamic Bar were value adds, but the new home page cards don’t serve much of a purpose for me in my use case, nor Bible Study Builder.

    So… I share your hope MJ. I really like some of the new stuff, and I hope this new ‘era’ of subscriber income means holes will get filled and we keep the momentum up. 

  • Morgan
    Morgan Member Posts: 476 ✭✭✭

    I suspect that AI has (in theory) shoved aside the need for manual tagging. Mark teased an AI bible search which I assume will eclipse datasets.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,405

    Morgan said:

    I suspect that AI has (in theory) shoved aside the need for manual tagging.

    The underlying AI used to analyze original texts has not changed. What has changed is the ability to interact with the human analysis - to read huge volumes of it and spit it out in human sounding formats. AI does not provide comprehensive lists well. It does provide comprehensive reviews of the literature well. Topic and theme tagging becomes less important; exposing detailed information AI does not generate becomes more important. Logos is well positioned to feed AI the detailed human analysis to support impressive AI results.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • John Goodman
    John Goodman Member Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    AI does not generate becomes more important. Logos is well positioned to feed AI the detailed human analysis to support impressive AI results.

    I've been thinking this... Faithlife has a lot of well tagged data which is a great resource for connecting with AI / training it etc.

    גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה