Considering what I have done I need BDAG?
I added a screenshot of a particular verse
The woman being spoken of in 1 Tim 3:11
Those who know the passage know my dilemma
So searching out for helpful books to help me know the original.. is bdag the gold standard?
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Yes, BDAG is the gold standard lexicon.
DAL
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I agree 100% anyone taking up study in the New Testament needs BDAG.
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But considering the list of lexicons I have already
Would U purchase it?
I mean I don't know the depth of the ones I have but them seems all pretty good
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DAL said:
Yes, BDAG is the gold standard lexicon.
Yes, For scholars. But it is too exhaustive and difficult to use for a layman.
Louw-Nida Greek Lexicon is easier to use and understand. And much less expensive.
so I think it depends on the users needs. How deep into the Greek language do you want to go?
on the mobile app is it possible to find the correct definition automatically in BDAG like you can on desktop?
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I agree with both replies. How much Greek do you have? If you're like some, that Greek will leave you if you don't keep up with it. Speaking from personal experience.
Maybe for academic reasons, you may need it, but maybe not.
Many books cross-reference BDAG, so that might be something to think about.
Sure, get it. It's only $ and besides, if you're like most of us in the Forums, you'll vacillate between buying or not, but once you 'pull the trigger' you'll feel so much better - speaking from personal experience.
I have Colin Brown, which I like better. Simply because it "looks" cleaner to my eyes.
New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (4 vols.) | Logos Bible Software
However, in saying that and what others may say or have already said. When "is enough, enough?" Do you REALLY need it? Is it a must-have? Personally and this is my 2 cents worth (in Canada we don't have any 'cents' any longer - insert your joke here) sleep on it some more. I'm an impulse buyer and if I don't watch myself I'll get stuff that in a couple of days or so, I'll wonder why in the world did I ever purchase that book?
Sooooo, unless you "REALLY" need it......
mm.
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Also seriously consider Silva's " New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology and Exegesis 2nd Edition". Its more money but it the most up to date, and easy to use, especially for those with limited greek. it's the expanded and updated version of Colin Brown's work.
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I concur that BDAG is the gold standard but I do not think that it is absolutely necessary to add it to your library.
With reference to your dilemma (1 Tim. 3:11) I would consult a theological lexicon (not BDAG) and several commentaries.
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Milkman said:
Maybe for academic reasons, you may need it, but maybe not.
I agree it's a gold standard ... but a bit of fools-gold traditionally included. It has the same singular assignments to verse-usage that the Logos sense has (more fools-gold). A more in-depth 'theological' lexicon is a nice addition to a decent greek lexicon. Spicq.
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Berechiah said:
Those who know the passage know my dilemma
YES! Louw-Nida will give you the sense within the range of possible meanings. BDAG drills down and not only gives you each possible gloss, but citations where most particular usage is found.
Perhaps because of the question you are asking with multiple possibilities, the emphasize current reference option Usually shows where the authors of BDAG see a particular usage. They indicate the usage in 3:12 (see red circles), but fail to mention 3:11.
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I agree with HJ. Having all the lexicons Logos has to offer will not resolve the interpretive choices because you already know the range of meanings in this passage. Interestingly, it looks to me like the UBS Handbook on 1 Timothy does a good job of summarizing choices and mentions some of the pros and cons of both.
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Thanks all for the very helpful comments
It was very good info. I hope to look into each of the books mentioned.
Thanks again
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DAL said:
Yes, BDAG is the gold standard lexicon.
DAL
Yes, BDAG is essential for anyone using Greek in their study of the New Testament. Absolutely essential.
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John said:DAL said:
Yes, BDAG is the gold standard lexicon.
Yes, For scholars. But it is too exhaustive and difficult to use for a layman.
I'm a layman and BDAG is my go-to Lexicon. Somewhere I found a note explaining how to use the BDAG and then I was able to use it easily.
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When you scroll down to here and expand it, what are your prices?
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