Logos4's 'Note File' functionality is missing significant Logos3 functionality

Logos4's 'Note File' functionality is missing significant Logos3 functionality:

1) In Logos3, I probably had several dozen different Note Files containing scriptures, resource references, etc.. When I selected part or all of a Scripture verse, I was able to direct that selection (or the entire scripture verse or verses) to any one of those Note Files. Now it seems that I can only direct it the latest open Note File (or something like that). Also, I cannot seem to select only part of a verse to direct the entire verse to a Note File.

2) In addition, in Logos3 a left sidebar appeared in a Note File giving a summary of the scripture verses / resources in a given Note File. In Logos4 that sidebar is gone showing only all of the scripture verse and comment text... too much to text to scroll through and look at easily (at least to get a quick view of what is in the Note File) since I can have dozens of entries in each Note File.

3) It was easier to 'order' Note File entries in Logos3 because Logos3 provided 'move up/down' buttons for them. In Logos4, the entries can be mouse-dragged around, but not beyond the top/bottom boundaries of the Note File window, since the window view won't scroll up/down when dragging. I am forced to scroll the Note File sidebar before dragging further.

4) I cannot seem to create hyperlinks in Note File entry comments as in Logos3. The Logos3 Note File functionality had a handy button that updated ALL scripture verses found in a given Note File entry's comments to hyperlinks in just one click. This seems to be missing in Logos4.

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New things I admittedly like:

1) When adding a Note to a Note File, the scripture verses are automatically ordered in the Note File, instead of simply being added to the list bottom.

2) I like being able to see an entire view of the Note File's contents, much like the missing Logos3 "Note File Summary" functionality. However, as I mentioned, I still want to be able to see a left sidebar Note File entry summary and be able to view only one entry's contents at a time.

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Robert M. Warren

iI also miss #4 (hyperlinks button). In L4 If you paste text with passage references, it seems it only generates the hyperlink for the passage(s) that are either in the last sentence of the paragraph (after pressing the Enter key) or are the first reference in any line made by text wrapping in the note. In any case, it is inconsistent.

In L3, the button would do all of them (for the most part).

Is there something Douglas and I are missingi

Douglas

Is there any ETA for when the Logos4 Note File functionality will be updated to be as good as the Logos3 Note File functionality?

Jerry Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/63581#Comment_63581

I join this "wait" for the functionality of v3 . . . it's the main thing keeping me from using v4 regularly. My note files in v3 are extensive to articles, hyperlinks to PDFs and Word documents that I use ALL the time. I'm continually indexing journal articles as I read and they become a tremendous resouces when you find yourself at a particular verse and there are several note files to articles you've read (and forgotten you've read!) and they now become fresh resources! From what I've seen with v4, I'm expecting excellent things when Notes/Hyperlinks/Favorites become funcational. Logos4 is excellent in so many things, e.g., searching, reports, etc. I'm anxious to use it everyday!

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/63683#Comment_63683

I only have two gripes about Logos 3 and 4 and the biggest is the inadequacy of notes within the software

Let me say I love how the searches now show your notes as well, this for me has been a major improvement in the right direction.

I long to bring my notes back within the software, but am sadly resigned to the fact it may never happen, for me the notes are fine/adequate for basic text notes but thats all, I have pleaded unsucessfuly for more functionality since it was changed from HTML to RTF (back in v2 days).

I have pleaded many times for better notes, and in the end wrote my own HTMLnotes program. I still use L4 notes, but only to hyperlink back to my external notes document, but with the upside of having color,tables, and images.

I may in the future make the program publicly available, but not at present, there is still hope for enhancement, as we havent reached the end of the development cycle.

BTW the second is the abscence of Sentence DIagramming (Which I know is slated to appear later in 2010)

tom

Logos4's 'Note File' functionality is missing significant Logos3 functionality

If you ask me, it tells me a lot about v4. One of the things that a lot of people said needed to be improved is the note functionality. In the current version of v4, we don't even have the functionality found in v3 (like the rest of v4 - again, just my opinion).

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/63581#Comment_63581

Is there any ETA for when the Logos4 Note File functionality will be updated to be as good as the Logos3 Note File functionality?

You can search the forum and find lots of posts about the note files. I think most of us would like to have at least the functionality of Logos 3 notes in Logos 4, else, how is Logos 4 an upgrade? With as much as the deficiencies of notes in Logos 3 was harped on, we'd hope Logos would have heard and responded with a better product. Right now it is dumbed down and less functional.

I don't recall hearing Logos making too many promises about notes and when things would occur, so it would be nice to get an 'official' update and response to the concerns.

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80038#Comment_80038

I don't recall hearing Logos making too many promises about notes and when things would occur

Bob did not say when things would get better with notes, but Bob did say this:

I Let me start by saying we ARE improving notes in the next release, and implementing many of the most commonly requested features.

Here is where he said it: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/242.aspx

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80042#Comment_80042

Here is where he said it: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/242.aspx

That was back before Logos 4 was delivered, not afterward. So what he promised and what was delivered ended up being very different things.

I think it would be good to hear some specifics not generalities and some estimate of how long we need to wait. This issue is the one keeping some folks from using Logos 4. Inquiring minds want to know.

Doug

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80048#Comment_80048

Personally, I hope that everyone continues to voice an opinion on this on. Maybe the Logos development team will listen. I think something that needs to be made clear here is that our notes are resources too. In fact, they may be our most important resources. For me, my notes represent my synthesis of all of the material I've absorbed while studying. They are the fruit of countless hours of studying, mulling things over, tearing things apart and putting them back together, looking up definitions and morphologies . . .etc. L4 should be a place that I can store and present those notes alongside my other resources. The notes function should give me a lot of the same features as OneNote. I want to be able to format, rearrange, organize, and place graphics in the notes. This is a research program that is very good in most respects but even at its best (L3), the notes function has just barely been usable. Please, please, please LOGOS, please listen to us on this issue. Let's make the notes function a first-class feature of this first-class program.

Scott H. Clark

3) It was easier to 'order' Note File entries in Logos3 because Logos3 provided 'move up/down' buttons for them. In Logos4, the entries can be mouse-dragged around, but not beyond the top/bottom boundaries of the Note File window, since the window view won't scroll up/down when dragging. I am forced to scroll the Note File sidebar before dragging further.

I guess I am missing something. I can't "mouse drag" my notes up or down either. I am stuck with the default order which appears to be the order I entered them. Am I missing some procedure that will allow me to move them? Also, I'd love to see more functionality in the notes in future releases. The more flexible these are the better.

Doug

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80227#Comment_80227

I guess I am missing something. I can't "mouse drag" my notes up or down either. I am stuck with the default order which appears to be the order I entered them. Am I missing some procedure that will allow me to move them? Also, I'd love to see more functionality in the notes in future releases. The more flexible these are the better.

I have been able to do this. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80298#Comment_80298

I guess I am missing something. I can't "mouse drag" my notes up or down either. I am stuck with the default order which appears to be the order I entered them. Am I missing some procedure that will allow me to move them? Also, I'd love to see more functionality in the notes in future releases. The more flexible these are the better.

I have been able to do this. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to.

I can't drag notes to rearrange either. But I used to be able to...could this be a problem with the beta that I'm running?

Scott H. Clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80298#Comment_80298

Okay, I am using Beta 5. . . I wonder if that is a beta issue. In any case, it make the notes very hard to sift through.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80305#Comment_80305

Okay, I am using Beta 5. . . I wonder if that is a beta issue. In any case, it make the notes very hard to sift through.

Ok, confirmation...I'm going to say it's a bug with the beta. :-)

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/10163.aspx

Doug

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80308#Comment_80308

Yep, just checked. I can still do this in SR3.

J. Morris

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80444#Comment_80444

Can I hyperlink a clipping to a note file? (i.e. put a hyper link in a note-file that points to a clipping(s))

-I prefer clippings over notes at this point (because I can edit the pasted text, add tags, notes are more manageable IMO)

I obviously can NOT put any kind of marker in the text where I past a clipping from (MAJOR drawback for clippings), but I need to, so I thought I'd just post a note to the text (in order to have a visual marker) and then add a hyperlink IN the note that points to the clipping.

-Is this all just wishful thinking on my part, or is it a possibility?

- Is there an ETA on when hyperlinking is going to be more functional?

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- I agree with the other posts. I know they don't really want to develop notes/clippings much more than it already is, but I sure wish they would...

-The idea that "there are better programs (like word processors) that do this" is obvious, but I want to keep my Bible study material IN my Bible study program!

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80456#Comment_80456

I want to keep my Bible study material IN my Bible study program!

Same here.

If we need to use a different program, then Logos should be able to include those files in its index and be able to link to the program data files.

Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80506#Comment_80506

I am adding my voice to the chorus. It was great to be able to choose to send a note to any set, to see a list of entries and to sort canonically or alphabetically.

A case in point: I found a paragraph I wanted to add to my topical notes. Question: do I already have an entry on this subject that I could add the paragraph to? I can't see a list to quickly answer the question and the order is no longer alphabetical but in order of creation. Should I do a text search? What a bother!

Anyway, I join the many who express appreciation and want to encourage the Logos staff while also recognizing that I spend a LOT OF TIME seeking answers and technical support for everyday use of Logos 4. And it's not just because it's new. I have used many different kinds of softwares over the years and I have a fair sense of the learning curve involved in a software.

I am also concerned about what the effect would be on potential new users who are doing homework to determine which Bible software to use. They don't have the loyalty of long time Logos users. I know that if I was considering several programs and found out such a massive report of problems on the company's website, it would turn me off and I would probably opt for something else.

A post recently said that attention could now be redirected to prepubs. I await eagerly one of my prepubs, but I think that Logos 4 health issues are a far greater need and priority.

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81202#Comment_81202

A post recently said that attention could now be redirected to prepubs. I await eagerly one of my prepubs, but I think that Logos 4 health issues are a far greater need and priority.

Francis, I totally agree with your statement. I too would like my prepubs yesterday, but I would rather have a program that I can use.

SteveF

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80456#Comment_80456

I want to keep my Bible study material IN my Bible study program!

So far, the only way I have found to do this was either making a PBB or using the Sermon File.

With Logos' determination "not" to make a "word" processor the only other way for me is using M$ Word, and creating a lot of folders and using Google Desktop to search through them. Yes, One Note could probably do something like this too, as well as come of the commercial "journalling" software, etc..

But as far as the Logos Notes function -- it is just too...... etc. With the stated goal for notes as a "quick jot" pad etc there is just NO point.

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80456#Comment_80456

Can I hyperlink a clipping to a note file?

Mark Barnes did a series of 3 videos on using L4 to build a sermon. In the 2nd video Note Taking he details how to use Favorites to tie together Clippings and Notes. So if you watch this video and practice using Favorites you might discover that his method is better than putting hyperlinks of clippings inside your notes.

Below is a screen shot of his video (i have inserted the red text in balloons)

Links to his videos are in the wiki Here

Hint: to place a link to a clipping into Favorites,

make sure that you have Favorites open in your layout
click on File in the toolbar
click on the clipping file and drag it to Favorites
rename the new link in your favorites
move the new link into a folder of your choice
You can do the same thing with Notes (dragging note file from File)

EDIT: you can nest a Folder inside Folders in Favorites. So under a single folder named Sermons, you could have other folders with names of individual sermons. And under each of these individual sermons you could have Notes & Clippings.

John Duffy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80207#Comment_80207

Personally, I hope that everyone continues to voice an opinion on this on. Maybe the Logos development team will listen. I think something that needs to be made clear here is that our notes are resources too. In fact, they may be our most important resources.

I too would love to see Notes being usable to keep personal study material within the Bible study program, instead of using OneNote or Word etc. I'd like to add my voice to this chorus, and see some concrete proposals for improvement from Logos. [I'll leave my comments on the ongoing general performace problems of L4 for another time...]

Doug

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/82067#Comment_82067

Logos, are you guys listening? This really would be an important feature for many users. Can't you use OneNote or Evernote as a model to develop a note-taking feature inside L4 that would give us greater flexibility with organizing our notes. It should also allow us the ability to reorganize, add graphics, use the styles that are available in OneNote or Evernote . . . you know, just be really good at taking, organizing, and keeping notes.

Moving to WPF should give you a lot of great options where this is concerned. I've been reading about WPF some and can see that it has some great classes for presenting data. This should be a piece of cake for the great programmers at Logos. Come on Bob, you could make a lot of us very happy by agreeing to this.

J. Morris

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81437#Comment_81437

So if you watch this video and practice using Favorites you might discover that his method is better than putting hyperlinks of clippings inside your notes.

Thank you very much Steve for responding to that part of my post, it is much appreciated.

I have seen Mark's video series (superb by the way) and will go back and review that section.

-Hope you have a blessed day.

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/82100#Comment_82100

Doug,

I agree with you.

But for an interim solution, i put up a wiki page outlining how to use Favorites to tie Notes & Clippings together along with many other resources.

Wiki page http://wiki.logos.com/Favorites#The_power_of_Favorites

J. Morris

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80207#Comment_80207

In fact, they may be our most important resources

Absolutely unequivocally true. Yet they have the least amount of functionality.

-Sugg: Merge Clippings and Notes into one and then bring it up to par with what we had in L3. (I'd be sufficiently satisfied with this)...(at least for a while [;)] )

Doug

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/82105#Comment_82105

I just added a plea for better notes with a link to this thread to the suggestions forum. I suggest that as many as possible go there an chime in so that hopefully we can get someone's attention. It's a shame for this truely great program to suffer in the area of notes. Let's let Logos lovingly know that we would appreciate their support in this area. Thanks to everyone who will participate.

J. Bryant Evans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/82107#Comment_82107

This has been a terrible disappointment to me. I don't need any hi-level graphics capability but I do need the ability to use my notes. It's sad that no one from the company has been by this thread to give us an update.

The ultimate end of our studies requires that we bring things together into one place and Logos seems to be the perfect location.

C'mon guys, we are your customers and have invested much into your company through our purchases. Please help us out here.

Jerry Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/82313#Comment_82313

I'll chime in once again with a plea for L3 notes and highlighting functionality in L4. Years of notes with cross-references to articles, commentaries, background tidbits, hyperlinks to PDFs, hyperlinks to word processor documents & hyperlinks in word processing documents back to L3, etc., plus years of marking up the text for quick reference need to be ported over to L4 so it becomes the super, prime-time study tool it can be.

I'm continuing to work in L3 and "play" in L4 until it's ready for serious work. I'd really appreciate some guess as to when this functionality might be available. In the meantime, it's hammer down working in L3!

And, don't hear all grumbling, I'm seriously ready for L4!

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/80207#Comment_80207

Personally, I hope that everyone continues to voice an opinion on this on. Maybe the Logos development team will listen. I think something that needs to be made clear here is that our notes are resources too. In fact, they may be our most important resources. For me, my notes represent my synthesis of all of the material I've absorbed while studying. They are the fruit of countless hours of studying, mulling things over, tearing things apart and putting them back together, looking up definitions and morphologies . . .etc. L4 should be a place that I can store and present those notes alongside my other resources. The notes function should give me a lot of the same features as OneNote. I want to be able to format, rearrange, organize, and place graphics in the notes. This is a research program that is very good in most respects but even at its best (L3), the notes function has just barely been usable. Please, please, please LOGOS, please listen to us on this issue. Let's make the notes function a first-class feature of this first-class program.

Thank you, Doug! You've hit the nail right on the head. I concur 100 % with your post. Notes are really important to me, and I wish L4 would at the very least match the notes capability of L3. Thank you for your post.

..........Mel

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/82105#Comment_82105

In fact, they may be our most important resources

Absolutely unequivocally true. Yet they have the least amount of functionality.

-Sugg: Merge Clippings and Notes into one and then bring it up to par with what we had in L3. (I'd be sufficiently satisfied with this)...(at least for a while )

That, Jeremiah, is precisely where I am at right now!

........Yours in Christ .................. Mel

Douglas

Does the new Logos 4 application yet have the functionality to import our super-important precious Notes from Logos 3? I have not been able to find it. I recall reading that it was intended to be added by Logos in 4Q 2009 or 1Q 2010 (http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures).

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/133651#Comment_133651

Yes you can. It was added for Logos4 version 4.0b

See http://wiki.logos.com/Importing_from_LDLS3

Please pay attention to step 1, it will send you to http://wiki.logos.com/Importing_Notes_from_LDLS3 for preparing your L3 notes first.

Douglas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/133653#Comment_133653

Thanks. That seemed to work great.

My next problem is this: I just imported my somewhat-commented "47" Note
Files from Logos 3, and it appears to me that even when I simply
start-up the Logos 4 application (tried several times), the screen flashes for each(?) Note
File I imported, taking about 5-30 seconds for each flash, at which
time the application is completely inaccessible. I have a pretty fast
computer, btw (Intel Core 2 Duo Processor at 2.6 GHz each processor;
4GB RAM). Perhaps it is trying to figure out where "all" those notes go in my open Bible, instead of just determining this on the fly when I get to a certain set of passages that appear in the open Bible's window.

Rich DeRuiter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/133686#Comment_133686

Thanks. That seemed to work great.

My next problem is this: I just imported my somewhat-commented "47" Note
Files from Logos 3, and it appears to me that even when I simply
start-up the Logos 4 application (tried several times), the screen flashes for each(?) Note
File I imported, taking about 5-30 seconds for each flash, at which
time the application is completely inaccessible. I have a pretty fast
computer, btw (Intel Core 2 Duo Processor at 2.6 GHz each processor;
4GB RAM). Perhaps it is trying to figure out where "all" those notes go in my open Bible, instead of just determining this on the fly when I get to a certain set of passages that appear in the open Bible's window.

In this case (as with L3), you'll get faster startup times by not loading all your note files. After starting, if you click on the visual filters (the one with the 3 circles, just to the right of the reference box) button on the Bible tab, scroll down to your note files and then deselect for the current tab, by unchecking the box. You can also deselect for all resources by right-clicking on the note name and clicking on that function.

Lots of notes and lots of visual filters will slow down Logos 4's startup, but once it's running, it runs just as fast with no notes selected as with all (at least for me). So you may want to consider just letting it start up with everything, so that everything is available to you. For me, this means starting L4, and then getting a cup of coffee. By the time I sit down, it's done loading.

At least that's my experience.

Douglas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/133688#Comment_133688

Thanks for your response. In my experience, though, the L3 / Logos 3 application was quite fast in starting up with many Note Files relative to the newer L4 / Logos 4 application. As a software developer myself, I suspect that the Logos app developers can do much to improve / optimize this, which in my opinion, is a fairly significant issue.

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/133692#Comment_133692

There has been and continues to be improvements in L4's performance. However they have been trying (I believe) time spent optimizing with time spent writing code for new features. I read in another post some time back that Bob P had a sign in his office that read "code first, then optimize". I don't know if that is true or not but that seems to be the way it is going.

The other issue that seems to affect performance is user hardware. I had L3 running on a laptop running Win Vista 32 bit with 2Gb of RAM. I knew when I purchased L4 I would need to upgrade to 4Gb. Graphics cards also seem to play a significant performance role based on what I have read on other threads. Visit the following Wiki page link if you have not already done so. You may find some helpful suggestions there.

http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_Running_Slowly

Douglas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/133688#Comment_133688

Richard: I tested your solution of deselecting all Note Files across all resources, and it didn't seem to decrease the application startup time for me. I even de-selected all sorts of other options like: "Links to Open Panels", "Sympathetic Highlighting", "Use Internet", "Show Visual Clues", "Show Search Bookmarks" ... and none of these seemed to decrease the application startup time either. So far on my pretty fast computer the startup time is clocked at about 3 minutes and 30 seconds with approximately 13-14 screen turn-blank flashes. Interestingly, I also have approximately 13-14 resources (Bibles, Commentaries, etc.) open that allow selecting / deselecting of the Note Files. I'll bet there is a connection... it appears that the Note Files are checked against each resource without respect to whether they are turned on or off for that particular resource. Oh well. Anyone else with some ideas?

Rich DeRuiter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/133764#Comment_133764

Richard: I tested your solution of deselecting all Note Files across all resources, and it didn't seem to decrease the application startup time for me. I even de-selected all sorts of other options like: "Links to Open Panels", "Sympathetic Highlighting", "Use Internet", "Show Visual Clues", "Show Search Bookmarks" ... and none of these seemed to decrease the application startup time either. So far on my pretty fast computer the startup time is clocked at about 3 minutes and 30 seconds with approximately 13-14 screen turn-blank flashes. Interestingly, I also have approximately 13-14 resources (Bibles, Commentaries, etc.) open that allow selecting / deselecting of the Note Files. I'll bet there is a connection... it appears that the Note Files are checked against each resource without respect to whether they are turned on or off for that particular resource. Oh well. Anyone else with some ideas?

When you deselected your note files, did you just uncheck them, or did you right click and select "Do not show in any resource"? If you simply unchecked them, then I think you're right. Logos will load them (and the entire custom highlighting palette you designed for your notes) first and then see that you don't want to see them in this instance. If you select "Do not show in any resource" Logos will not load the note file, nor the custom palette for any note file you don't load.

Do you have any visual filters active? If so do they use any of your custom highlighting palettes imported from L3?

Do you have any highlighting active? Do these have their own custom highlighting palettes? What happens if you deselect these (using the same method as deselecting notes: "Do not show in any resource")?

How many resources open when you start L4?

Do you have any tools open when you start (Power Lookup, Explorer, Cited By, Text Comparison, etc.)?

Do you have any guides open when you start(Passage, Exegetical, Bible Word Study)?

When you start Logos, do you open to your last layout, or to the home page?

Does the same thing happen when you open to a blank screen? (If you open Logos to the your last layout, save your layout, so you can restore it later, then type close all in the L4 command bar. Then close and restart Logos. How long does it take now?

If you open your primary Bible (e.g. type NIV in the command bar - or ESV, or whichever is the one you use most), after opening to a blank layout, how long does it take?

Now, close that Bible and go to layouts and select the layout you just saved. How long does it take to open?

(On a cold start this morning (after a system reboot) Logos 4 started for me in about 90 seconds (with 15 resources open, including 6 Bibles, with highlighting (8 schemes), visual filters (2 schemes) and notes (45) all active, plus an open search and custom guide (neither of which was in visible at startup).

Graham B

It seems Logos is trying to be too clever with the new software. They've forgotten the basics or made them more complex.

No more 'click' to follow a Bible reference link, now it is 'ctrl' + 'click'.

Shifting a note file position now takes three times as long to scroll laboriously to the desired position etc.

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I do like the scripture references being automaticaly recognised when typed in a note file.

I have not (yet) figured out how to link a Strongs number to the location in Strongs Concordance.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/218222#Comment_218222

Hi Graham

I have not (yet) figured out how to link a Strongs number to the location in Strongs Concordance.

If you open Strong's (I have the Enhanced Lexicon) to the location you are interested in - in this example I am using #1343

Then type some text into a note which you want to link to this location and select it

Go back to the lexicon / concordance and copy the location as a URL

then paste that into the hyperlink field in the note

If you then hover over the text you get a popup with the information in the lexicon, if you Ctrl-Click you will go there.

This is an example of the method outlined at http://wiki.logos.com/Notes#Creating_hyperlinks_to_other_resources

Hope this helps

Graham

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/218222#Comment_218222

No more 'click' to follow a Bible reference link, now it is 'ctrl' + 'click'.

This allows you to edit the surface text while leaving the hyperlink (which could go to any book in your library) unchanged. Ctrl+click is standard for hyperlink execution in every word-processor I know.

Shifting a note file position now takes three times as long to scroll laboriously to the desired position etc.

I've found that if I turn off the note display in the resource It's linked to. (Use the tri-circle dropdown to uncheck the Note file's title) then it will function better. You can turn on the display again once you're finished editing.

Douglas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/218234#Comment_218234

If anyone cares about this issue and thinks the Notes functionality should be improved, please vote for my improvement ideas here:

http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/1447507-improve-notes-display-export-and-deletion-prot?ref=title

tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/218333#Comment_218333

I think the notes function in L4 has more uservoice request than any other function. Here are some other requests for improved note functions:

To have photos in notes: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/613917-please-make-importing-pictures-in-notes-available

To add tables and attachments to notes: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/959045-ability-to-add-tables-attachments-such-as-pictur

To be able to use color and other font changes within notes: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/1241063-give-us-back-the-ability-to-format-our-notes

To kept the note's source format: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/1277545-copy-to-notes

A security function to prevent notes from going to the internet: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/660833-add-an-option-that-allows-a-user-not-to-upload-the

I would not be surprised if there are more uservoice requests for notes, these are just the ones that I know about.

Graham B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/218223#Comment_218223

Hi Graham,

Thanks (again). The Hyperlink worked fine. It's something I will be using quite frequently.

Graham (B)

Graham B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/218470#Comment_218470

Six months on and I still find it frustrating to have to use Ctrl + Click to go to a Bible reference from my note files!

1. I can go directly to a Bible reference from any publication in my library with a simple 'Click'.

2. I can go directly to any Strong's number from the Interlinear with a simple 'Click'.

3. I can go directly to a Bible reference from my Bible Reading Plan with a simple 'Click'.

4. If a want to edit the surface text of a hyperlink I can click outside it and use the arrows to enter and edit - this happens rarely.

5. If I want to go to a Bible refence from a note file I prefer to go directly with a simple 'Click' - this happens frequently!

6. If I want to use a word processor AND use hyperlinks in it - I will not use LOGOS.
Logos is specialised Bible software it needs to be a leader in it's field not a seond rate copycat of word-processors or any other type of software.

I bought Logos to enhance my Bible reading and study of the Bible - not to discourage and frustrate it! When that happen's I use it less frequently and for shorter times !!! !!!!!!!!!!

MAYBE navigating directly to a Bible reference from a hyperlink in a note file with a 'Click' could be selected by the user as an option.(Then those who prefer to use 'Ctrl + Click' would be content and all the others who prefer to use a 'Click' can do so.)