Linux Version
I would like a Linux version to download & use on my Desktop. I do not own Windows or MacOS, and I understand that it can be used via webapp, but a standalone Linux version would be better and more suitable to my devices.
Something that you all might be interested in, is creating an AppImage so that it can run on any Linux distribution (Ubuntu-based, Arch-based, Fedora, etc...).
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I think the latest instructions to get it installed are kept up-to-date here: https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller
This would make Logos portable without Logos giving up their proprietary rights. Someone in an oppressed country could download Linux to an external hard drive, then install Logos on it. Then they could plug it in to any computer, connect to the internet, purchase Logos, smuggle it across the border (or if they can just use a VPN), and then they have Logos. It would also benefit countries that are shifting towards a more oppressive government. They could download a hard drive while they have an opportunity. People could buy your software for themselves, or to smuggle across borders. This is not unrealistic with modern computing speeds. A 20 dollar flash drive could realistically boot an OS and a purchased copy of Logos. This would open up a whole new market for Logos, and make you money in the long run.
Moreover, it would give me peace of mind as a user if I could download an external backup somehow. For example, I am not happy with the trajectory that Logos has been following theologically recently. Your desire to create a base package targeted just to black Christians demonstrates that you do not properly understand how all men are made in the image of God. More fundamentally, you do not seem to understand that certain faith traditions should not be sold because they are sinful and idolatrous. There is only one faith tradition that you should be selling. Why would a company, supposedly committed to Scripture, work to profit from false teachers? I find this very concerning and I would not purchase Logos today due to these concerns. Observing this trajectory in Logos causes me to desire some kind of backup.
I understand that I got in to the weeds a little bit there, towards the end so thanks for hearing me out.
-In His Grip
Andrew M.
See https://logos.feedbear.com/boards/faithlife-proclaim/posts/linux-web-version for a related request
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
Andy, instead of package installers (.deb, .rpm, etc), it would make way more sense to create a Logos AppImage. An AppImage is basically like an old school .exe file with all the needed dependencies inside. It's completely portable, you can use it on ANY Linux distro, you don't install it to your system, you just run the file.
I fear that if Logos is ported to Linux they'll only support the major distros which are Ubuntu based by putting it a .deb installer, which means other Linux gurus will have to repackage it themselves for Fedora, Arch, etc...
I've been using Linux for 11 years now, even as my daily driver. AppImages are the way to go, not specific installers which can devolve into "dependency hell". Check out https://www.appimagehub.com/ to see what I mean.
- Ben
I want nothing to do with Windows 11 which among other things requires you to log in to a Microsoft account to use your own computer! Company's like Apple and Microsoft are seeking more control over what users have on their desktops, just as apple and google now do with apps on phones. If they don't like it, i.e. Jesus Christ the Lord, they will call it hate speech and delete it or otherwise deny access.
People, especially Christians, need to stand against Windows 11. Please help us keep our freedom to worship and learn God's word by giving us a Linux option for your complete software package, thank you.
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bShowAll=true&bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=version&sTitle=&sReturnTo=&iId=39484
here is a wonderful wine page with info
You need to run it with a script, through terminal, the guide above walks you through it in the how to section, I run it on arch and it runs fine. Only a couple issues, don't be alarmed when your computer starts sweating during the library synchronization, this is normal, it will calm down once it is done.
here is the script-https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller/releases
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bShowAll=true&bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=version&sTitle=&sReturnTo=&iId=39484
here is a wonderful wine page with info
You need to run it with a script, through terminal, the guide above walks you through it in the how to section, I run it on arch and it runs fine. Only a couple issues, don't be alarmed when your computer starts sweating during the library synchronization, this is normal, it will calm down once it is done.
here is the script-https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller/releases
See: https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/04/linux_desktop_cloud_desktops/
QUOTE: "Do you know who else won't be following Apple or Microsoft to the cloud? People who care about privacy, folks who want control over their data on their machines, and PC power users."
Installation worked fine.
When I tried to change settings with my mouse (e.g. change behavior on startup) the app is crashing. However, I found a workaround: By navigating and selecting the settings with the keyboard instead of the mouse I could change the startup behavior.
Performance is pretty decent (although a little slower than in Windows on the same computer). The app typically uses ca. 1.6 GiB memory.
You have to use the AppImage as it is - updates cannot be installed.
So +1 for Linux support or full web support.
I would like to put in a formal request that Logos start working on a Linux based program. I recognize that Windows and MacBooks, along with Android and iOS have a dominant market share. But Linux has recently reach 4.5% of the desktop market share, nearly half of the Mac OS market share, and as Microsoft continues to establish questionable tools in Windows 11, I imagine they will steadily lose ground to Linux and Mac OS over the years.
I think it would be wise of Logos to start a Linux based program, while there are tools to port Logos to Linux machines, they are unstable at best for most users. The web app is a sufficient alternative for now, but still largely lacking in the same capabilities as a desktop client.
Distributions that would be best to start with would be Arch and Debian. These can easily be modified or used by the many distributions based on them.
I recently changed devices, from a laptop to a Samsung Tablet. It made more sense than spending thousands of dollars on a new laptop when I really only use my device to write sermons, do church work, and use Logos. However, Logos doesn't currently have an option for a Linux desktop app. The web app works ok, but it significantly less than the normal desktop app. Some of the tools (e.g. Side-by-side comparison, copy bible verse, etc.) were so simple but made life so much easier. With more and more people moving away from laptops to tablets, I think it makes a great deal of sense to have a Linux option that would run on a tablet, allowing this incredible tool and resource to continue to be used.
See the forum discussion here:
Find our community-made installer here for an install through Wine:
There was another feature request/feedback request for a Logos version back on UserVoice which may be lost now.
There are plenty of other forum posts like below, but the above is our mega-thread. We also have an active Telegram/Matrix community for chat.
Finally, while it may not yet make financial sense for FaithLife to invest in a Linux port, they have been more than helpful for the Linux community and our efforts to get the software running, going far beyond even just mere approval.
hey I am a Linux user and would like to have a native app for Linux so that I can access my books offline (there are times where I do not have Internet access or reliable Internet and not being able to access my books for study is frustrating) and get the same customisability as Windows and Mac users within the app. I know that there are plenty of other Linux users out there that would appreciate this! While I am appreciative of the web app and being able to use it, it is no where near as good.