Preachers, would this help with your sermon planning process?
We're considering adding a feature to Sermon Manager that would help preachers with their sermon planning by analyzing what topics or Bible passages they've previously preached on. We've found many pastors want to give their congregations a varied diet, but that's not always easy to plan, especially for those who don't follow a lectionary.
One suggestion is to add charts or other analytics showing what books or passages have already been preached on and where the gaps might be. There's a very rough mockup below. (If we did this, we'd improve the design. It's only a proof-of-concept.):
If this is of interest, please let us know. Would it be important only to know what books have/have not been preached on, or would you need to know coverage within a particular book? And specifically, what are the most important questions you'd want such a feature to answer? Let us know in the comments.
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Yes, but for maximum usefulness it should be paired with the ability to filter sermons. For example, if I click on Jonah, it should add a facet showing only sermons on Jonah.
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It would be great to see gaps at multiple levels - books of the Bible, genres, and maybe even sections within books. For example, I might have only preached through the narrative section of Daniel but not the Prophetic section. Or it would be good to see if I have mainly preached from Pauline epistles but not Petrine or Johannine etc.
What would be a game changer is if that information could be shared between team members (ie Assistant Pastors) so that collectively we could identify areas that are yet to be covered.
Could this even be drilled down to topics!? I'm just thinking that it could be really powerful to know that certain topics (such as hell, sexuality etc) have never been addressed. I guess that's largely dependent on the user inputting that kind of data.
This is a great idea, though.
This seems like a useful AI augmented feature: "You've spent a lot of time on the Epistles and no time in the Old Testament in the last 18 months. Overall, your topics have been centered around justification, baptism, giving, and marriage, with no coverage of sanctification, evangelism, or eschatology. See more?"
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I like this idea of being able to click on a book like "Jonah" and see just sermons in Jonah that I've used. Also maybe have a list of "Topics" that I create and then be able to click on a "Topic" and see sermons for that "Topic". This would be of a great help!!! 😍
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
Mark, yes this would be interesting to have, but the ability as some have mentioned to delve deeper into what has been preached on a particular book, topic or theme would be of additional assistance. I would want to know where i have been light so as to give a more complete view of God's Word.
In Christ,
Ken
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It is, I just mean that it should be integrated with the analysis tool, where there should be an intuitive way to apply the filter.
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I see it as much as a Bible Study Builder tool … perhaps even more than for homilies when a lectionary is used.
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You might want to consider being able to filter by timeframes. You would probably want to be able to look at the last year, the last month, or some custom timeframe parameters. Location filter could also be a consideration for some.
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I've always wanted this since Sermon Manager came out. I've thought of the feature as more like a report, though, maybe with charts and graphs, telling you which books you preached on the most, the average length of your sermons, the most recurring topics preached on, and things like that. The data is already there… it's just a matter of pulling it and displaying it in a usable report that could be generated whenever desired. With that data presented that way, it could then be more actionable…whereby pastors can target other Bible books or topics not explored yet, for example.
This looks interesting. I think I might find it helpful in my preaching ministry, especially if some of the features suggested above made it possible to sort with more granularity the Bible books I have preached from. If it could be used for Bible studies as well, that would make it even more useful.
Not to complain at all, But one of the problems I'm running into is where did I put the file? I mean, with Passage Lists, Notes, Highlights, Sermon Builder, Bible Study Builder, I forget where the file is that I built. I guess at this point, I would ask if they could be combined into one somehow where all I have to do is open that one and list my file.
And yes we have Documents on the Desk Top, but we do not have Documents on Mobile… any one notice that?
I wonder how many more "file makers" we gonna have???
Edit: I also think Sermon Builder and Bible Study Builder and Passage Lists actually need some work to make them really great. Why not work on the ones we have to improve them and not worry about creating new functions???
Guess I'm just a simple man with a simple mind…. 😎
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
@Mark Barnes (Logos) if you can also bring something similar to the Bible Study, to keep track of what has been studied.
Probably not so much SERMON BUILDER feature, but as an option in SERMON MANAGER it might be helpful to chart delivered sermons. Personally, I don't need the tool because my workflow includes "passage selection" where I consider where I have been recently and what genres have not been covered lately so that I am considering the whole counsel of God in a meta approach to pulpit presence.
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Yes I understand that but, when I create a file… then I have to remember in what one of those "functions" did I put that file. On the Desk Top, that's what I use "Documents" for… I go to one place then find my file rather than (On the mobile) having to go to different "functions" to find my file. Hope that clears up what I was trying to say. Thanks.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
This would be interesting to me!
I preach through whole books, so would be most interested in what books have not been preached on. I wonder also if genre, topic would be a useful metric too.