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Larry Craig
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I apologize if I didn't title this right. I find this new system here less clear than the old system.

I wanted to do a search for parousia in both the theology guide and the topic guide. Logos immediately shifted my inquiry to the Second Coming, which to me predetermines the results one way.

Much of modern Bible scholarship ignores all the time warnings of the NT about things that are near and soon to take place. And one of those is the parousia, and I think we are missing something here.

I could do a book search, and I come up with thousands of ransom hits. I thought the theology or topic guide might help sort through all the material. But it won't even allow the option that maybe we aren't seeing the parousia in the right way.

My idea?

If I want to search for the parousia in a theology or topic guide, don't interpret the word for me and just run the search for parousia.

thank you

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,948

    If I want to search for the parousia in a theology or topic guide, don't interpret the word for me and just run the search for parousia.

    Both the Topic Guide and the Theology Guide use the Logos Controlled Vocabulary topics to work. It is therefore, necessary, to use the term they chose if you want curated results - your suggestion would yield something similar to the results of an all search. I first learned this when I was getting frustrated with trying to find the incarnation and discovered birth of Jesus was where the information I sought was hidden. A request to increase the number of synonyms in the LCV would help but not really change the results.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Larry Craig
    Larry Craig Member Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, MJ

    I am trying to develop my own eschatology. At least one I can live with and believe in. I am not sure the parousia is THE SECOND COMING, if by that you mean the end of time resolution of everything, or even the precursor to the millennium. Too many passages speak of this or something happening very soon, not thousands of years later. I feel like something else had to have happened in 70AD besides the destruction of Jerusalem.

    I did a book search of parousia and had thousands and thousands of random results. I thought the guides might help to sort through all that.

    So working with their present terms won't help me here

    thanks again

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,948

    I agree that the theological categories are a weakness of Logos — too broad and too oriented towards a specific vocabulary. Could you possibly get some better results creating a passage list and for books with a Bible index, limiting you search to those passages? The option that allows you to use ranges, also supports passage lists.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Larry Craig
    Larry Craig Member Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭

    Yes, I suppose. I still think I'm going to be flooded with random results. Honestly, I'm not confident I will get this resolved.

    thank you

    thank you very much

    I'm thinking I'm not sure if I know how to do this

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