a question from an Accordance User

That’s for sure. The latest forum discussion asking to hear from management about the promised syncing feature got shut down. At this point, I just wish Logos would buy them out and add their searching capabilities to Logos and their resources that Logos doesn’t have. I also deleted my forum account and unsubscribed from all their emails.

I agree 100%. They are needed and I hope they turn around. But I don't like how they locked the forum. That forum was supposed to keep people informed.

Hey Kristin and Steven. I agree with both of you that the healthy competition benefits all of us as users of the software. There are searching capabilities that Accordance has that Logos still does not yet have. And the issue of have multiple workspaces open at the same time is a serious issue that Logos needs to fix. But locking the forums where we were just asking to hear from management at Accordance was the final straw for me. Not being allowed to ask questions is intolerable. Treating customers that way is inexcusable. I’m now longing for the day when Logos buys out Accordance and make Logos better by providing better and more original language searches(I.e. searching Hebrew vowel and cantillation patterns and have multiple workspaces open) and continue allowing user feedback to make Logos even better!

@Kristin, I've found floating windows can do everything the main window can do except of course for the absence of the main menu on the left edge. Here are images. I find switching between these three windows easier than switching between layouts. My main layout includes all three of these windows - the main window and two floating windows.

I get your first point hugely - and the second. The third point I think shows you use Logos more deeply than I do.

Your first point should be an easy fix, or so says this user who doesn't have any idea how much work would be involved: any resource should open as a tab in the same window as the link that was clicked to open it. And every link should be right-clickable, with a drop-down list of choices to open in a new tab (which would open in the window the link is in) or in a floating window.

The only fix I can think of for your second point is for the user to be able to open multiple instances of the application, which would of course be great.

Groups of tabs would be very helpful. They work well in browsers, and would be useful in Logos for all the same reasons.

Totally agree. This would be a perfect feature/enhancement request.

I also agree with this. I’ve read posts about floating windows being the ‘answer’ for Accordance users wanting the Workspace experience . I appreciate @DMB ’s honest assessment that floating windows aren’t even close.

@Steven MacDonald - Maybe Logos is listening and will work this in. I think most users would welcome it and it might help lure Accordance folks over.

It breaks my heart to see what has happened to Accordance. It just feels like the new ownership has taken an arrogant tone towards its long time users. So sad, I really like the software and have invested a lot of money in it. I made a decision not to buy anything else from them and to start rebuilding my library in Logos.

I run a MacBook Air with M2 with Sequoia and Logos runs great.

+1 for M2 MacBook Air with Sequoia. Logos has no issues. I can’t answer Kristin’s question on the other forum about Accordance on Sequoia because I haven’t opened Accordance in months. :/

All of my apps currently work on Sequoia, even some I don't have the latest versions on (there's a couple with paid upgrades I haven't upgraded to).

I keep going back and forth on Apple Intelligence. Each time I try it, I usually end up disabling it.

Only "issue" I have right now is my love/hate relationship with my 13" MacBook Air. When traveling, I love it since it's small and fits great in a suitcase. When at my desk, I've been turning to my iMac Pro since I need a larger screen. Next year I need to buy myself another/bigger monitor.

Then again, I have four computers on my desk, so I could just boot all four up and spread all my work across all four displays. Between that and my weather equipment, flight tracker, and HAM radio equipment, my office looks more like a spy setup. :-)

I sometimes have issues with Logos on Sequoia, BUT in general Logos runs much better and faster on MacOS than it did in the past.

Smiling, but I'm not so sure about that (L vs A as just different approaches). Though, I don't know enough about Windows vs Mac to know systems-wise.

But Logos vs Accordance, I do know that the day Logos arrived in my mailbox, was the day I was in business (feeding my hungry linguistic neural nets). That was almost 20 years ago, and 20 years later, Accordance still won't do what I needed to do then.

Now, I'm absolutely sure (judging from this thread) that there's things Logos literally can't do, and Accordance can, which some users absolutely need to do. I also don't see either platform 'budging', primarily due to legacy development vs market size. And indeed, when one of them keels over, it's doubtful the other will add needed features missing. WYSIWYG.

(Ironically, mathematical neural nets are modern day versions of ancient Mot … ravenous, casting to and fro for whom they can devour!)

I would love for Logos to have a deal for ex accordance users. i.e pay x amount of money and have the same resources in Logos that you have in Accordance

This would be a wonderful improvement that could potentially affect everyone. You brought up a good point. How would you add a fundamental change without affecting all users, both subscribers and non-subscribers? I suppose they could add it as an option to be turned on and make it subscriber only. If they did that, I would think it should qualify as part of the fallback license for sure. Ideally, it would be a simple enhancement available for everyone. Good things to think about and I definitely hope to see this feature one way or another in the near future. Just my two cents :-)

Right. Logos could offer a large discount, but the discount would come from Logos's end, not the publishers. And what does Logos have to gain by doing that? If users are leaving Accordance (and they are), they're going to come to Logos anyway. And Logos certainly doesn't have any desire to buy a bunch of code written in Objective Pascal.

@Mark Allison I definitely agree and those attempts would be welcomed. There is definitely more than one way to implement something.

I admit, I do not have much experience with the multiple workspaces features of Accordance. Does the use of "Saved Layouts" not allow similar function (Sometimes quite "clunky" depending on the "depth/intensity" of the Saved Layout), as I cycle through Saved Layouts fairly simply (though as mentioned, sometimes slow or clunky)

It would be nice to have the ability to allow separate layouts on multiple screens

It's two clicks to switch between Saved Layouts and two clicks to update the current layout, if for example you make a change to a Saved Layout

Edit (I am on the Classic Toolbar Setup, I am not sure if these actions have changed with the toolbar changes)