Sell Me on a LFL Subscription

Frank,

I would like to submit some thoughts on feature parity, not, however, to argue on either side of the issue. Logos employees have in the past mentioned time needed to develop features as their rationale for charging customers. For example, while instant dark mode seems like it might be a prime candidate to be rolled out to all users, this decision has not yet been made because it was very time-consuming to develop, and they have to recoup the costs of that by requiring payment.

It would be my assumption that feature parity is handled similarly. Where significant costs are involved, the need to recoup those costs requires them to sell it as a new feature rather than release it as being tied to a previous feature.

Therefore, there simply may not be an all-encompassing policy on feature parity to share, as each feature may be considered on a case-by-case basis.

There is a sense of 'need to defend Logos somehow' (vs deal with the specific issues Frank mentioned).

Just in the 'watching FL' business, and we're into mid-December, I personally now, wouldn't recommend Logos, except for heavy-duty folks (pastors, academic, etc). The digital-lock on resources (Logos or done), is now accompanied by a subscription model with no promises on 'how much' and 'what offerred'. Don't think so. OliveTree is the better choice for newbies and solid Bible study. AI is fun but for hobby-ists.

I say this relative to what Frank is mentioning .. an odd brittleness to FL decision making. Of course, it got into full-gear earlier this year … the BW setting w/o restart. I haven't seen the promised bug fixes, but then now, we have to worry about forced UI changes that primarily favor basic-use (pre-L4). But the last week or so really seemed odd … loading inapplicable software on Macs? Silently demanding 'users' (aka pastors, etc) figure how to undo the damage. Don't think so … FL's no longer on its game. Bumbling forward.

Eventually, someone will need to speak to the Android problem. Vs customer stats.

I’ve had instant dark mode on my iPhone and MacBook for quite a while now 😂 Just go to settings, brightness and display and choose light or dark mode — it automatically changes everything that is compatible with dark mode! So this is not really a Logos new feature, your iOS or Mobile device already has it!

DAL

Not taking any side, but for the record, I pushed Logos 38 to my outdated Mac after it did not install by the regular update process. I own that; I didn’t catch the notice on the moonlighting of MacOS Monterey. However I will say that it was arbitrary to have Monterey cut off since it was working just fine with Logos 37.
As far as the ongoing debate, I am not a long term Logos customer with years of a customer-client relationship. I subscribe to Logos now since I don’t want to miss out on potential useful added features. I am certainly not a power-user of AI but it does some things I could not readily do without investing a lot of effort in mastering the Logos search symantecs. I was hoping that a subscription would be comparable in cost in the long run to updating to “Logos 11” but in reality it was not. The benefit in subscribing to Max was to get some higher level resources I have yet to purchase… I get to lease them to evaluate the fit. Unfortunately, even after a two-year lease none of the resources, not even a partial ownership, gets credited to me. I would rather this arrangement be lease to own. So after an investment of $312 usd I keep some portion of the updated application. I get a free book, assuming I don’t already own it, and a few other percs. I suppose to get the most benefit I will have to buckle down and take advantage of the Mobile Ed courses. So I have decided to take this ride for two-years. If the cost of admission then goes up I have to reevaluate. Sure, I would love for the company to remain financially sound. I give the same consideration to my local deli. What should set the Faithlife company apart is a commitment to Christians which is seemingly getting clouded by recent developments. Time will tell. I have my concerns and I am not even a ten-year “partner”. No strong sell from me but I do want the ministry work of Logos to continue to support Christians.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I do have the full feature set as I came into Logos with L10 Academic pro with the FFS added… I bought a “used” set. I subsequently added to this acquisition with many good legacy sets culminating with L10 Gold. So I made the initial purchase more useful for a non-academic, but a theologian nonetheless. I could have just ignored the subscription but my consideration is staying up with upgrades. By this time I would have been on board to update to a Logos 11 but realizing that the two-year upgrade cycle can be expensive. The subscription sort of fills the gap. I just would like the lease to lead to resource ownership.

So…Are you subscribing or not?

DAL