another right click search option #2

Larry Craig
Larry Craig Member Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭
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When doing a right click search on a Hebrew verb, we have the option to search the lemma, the root, the sense, and then there is a morphological search. The morph search should be of that same lemma, but, no, it searches all the verbs with the same morphology.

I don't know who would need that. Keep that as an option if you want, but there should be the option of a morphological search of that same lemma.

Yes, and I can add the lemma to the search separately, but the point of Logos is to save time, and that is the option that we should have instead of an all-verb search.

thank you

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,093

    I don't think I understand your request. Also note I use the morphology search as currently constructed to understand the morphology.

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  • Larry Craig
    Larry Craig Member Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭

    If I do an inline search with the morph option, I get all the verbs of any lemma with that morphology. Why would i want that? I just want that one verb, that lemma.

    I can add the lemma to the search, like I did right now, but I only got one hit instead of 8.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,093

    Why would i want that? 

    You don't. I do. But I still don't understand what you want that you don't already have:

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,272

    Larry may be requesting the option you showed MJ when using an Inline Search - but I'm not sure

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,093
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1350335#Comment_1350335

    You're right - I'm confused re: whether he is asking for Context Menu or for inline search …

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  • Larry Craig
    Larry Craig Member Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭

    That search you highlighted, first is not an inline search. An inline search I can link to my Bible and go through the list and the Bible follows along. I can't do that with a Bible search.

    Secondly, that highlighted search only searches for that specific form. If it is masculine plural, that's all it searches. I want the form, not the particulars. In this case, i want all the passive participles. So I need to construct the morph search myself, and that means creating the morph search AND adding the lemma to the search. Logos has all the necessary information there to let me do that on the right click, but, no, I have to start from scratch and do it myself.

    Logos is already there, but then makes me do the work. I'm not lazy but this is what Logos is supposed to do.

  • Larry Craig
    Larry Craig Member Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭

    I want to do an inline search, in this case, all the passive participles of a particular verb. If I click on the morph search in the right click menu, I get a Bible search and not an inline search, plus it doesn't give me all the passive participles but only the exact one, say, masculine plural.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,272

     An inline search I can link to my Bible and go through the list and the Bible follows along

    This sounds like you have two copies of your Bible open - in a link set - one with the Inline Search active and the other with all the text showing. Is that the case?

    I want to do an inline search, in this case, all the passive participles of a particular verb. If I click on the morph search in the right click menu, I get a Bible search and not an inline search, plus it doesn't give me all the passive participles but only the exact one, say, masculine plural.

    If you want to modify the morphological information for your search I would have thought it best to just start from the lemma and construct the morphological details for yourself (as you are going to be changing it anyway)

    You could do this selecting the lemma from the context menu, running an Inline Search for that, and then adding in the morph details.

    Does that make sense / help at all?

  • Larry Craig
    Larry Craig Member Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭

    that worked.

    I am embarrassed now for having to ask the question, but I am very grateful for your help and that I got this resolved. I do this a lot.

    thank you very, very much

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,272

    No problem - glad it was helpful

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