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    I am replying to Jason who posted, "I know that you really miss the old forums, but I'd love to hear what you mean by "the old forums were much more helpful." (e.g., more helpful in learning to use Logos?)"

    Well, Jason, to start with these forums are confusing. Gosh! I didn't even see how to respond to your post, so I just had to start a new post. It is hard to find help for a problem.

    It seems to me these forums are so confusing and useless that it has to be intentional. Logos must not want feedback. Logos must not want members to really help one another. The forums seem designed to create confusion.

    I get the impression that Logos no longer wants feedback from users. They want users to just shut up and subscribe.


    "In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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    • MVP Posts: 54,946

      Did you scroll down the page to see the Leave a Comment section - where I just put this text. I suspect that what is throwing you is that it is not compact enough to show easily on a screen and has no visual indication that you really need to scroll.

      Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

    • Member, MVP Posts: 1,607

      Reply to Jason

      Mike Childs

      As MJ communicated, scrolling to the bottom of the page will allow you to post a comment. You may also click on "quote" beneith any user's comment to reply directly to that person. Jason has mentioned that improvements are in the works concerning how users quote and reply to one another.

    • Member Posts: 14,362 ✭✭✭✭

      It is quite confusing (though I've no good suggestion). Sometimes, I think I'm editing my post, and then hit the 'Post Comment' that's for the next post, ending up with a blank post … and can't delete anything.

      Then there's the roller coaster jumping back and forth … happens on my iPhone but not my Mac.

      Judging from the number of people who don't conclude the text box with instructions is the text box for writing, apparently 'something' needs fixing there (not sure what).

      Personally, I think (guessing) that the huge love of white space (FL's not budging on that) makes 'seeing the forum' for many, not a go. Just bits and pieces of posts, like other forums. The old forum listing approach allowed seeing most of a days posts at one go.

      "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    • Member Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
      edited December 2024

      I find the new forums to be difficult to use. Very difficult to browse or find anything. While the old forum had way too many unneeded subforums, this one doesn't seem to have any. Everything just kind of blurs together. And there's way too much wasted white space.

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      It just feels empty.

      In the old forum, the forum text took up the same amount of space, but was centered. Now, it's just more towards the left. Neither one is a good use of space.

      I posted this before, but something like this would be wonderful. Many forums use this format. It's by XenForo and a quick check showed a self-hosted 12-month license starts at $195, so I assume that would be very affordable for Logos. (I'm not sure how all that works, I'll be honest).

      See how the size of the text shrinks/enlarges to fit my browser? And I can quickly customize the color scheme to what works best for me. And there can be as many or as few subforums (and even subforums within those) as needed. It looks good. It's easy to use.

      This style makes you want to stay and explore, rather than feel that there's nothing here.

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    • Member Posts: 2,935 ✭✭✭

      I bought a new (used) car not long back. It has lots of bells and whistles. I found all that to be confusing. But then I started to learn how to use those bells and whistles… and now, I love 'em! I think the same is true with any and most, if not all, software changes. We get comfortable with the old ways…. we don't like the confusion of change… but eventually, we like new things. 😎

      xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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    • MVP Posts: 16,210

      Tagging @Jason Stone (Logos) so he has the chance to see this…

      Have joy in the Lord! Smile

    • Member Posts: 14,362 ✭✭✭✭
      https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1350655#Comment_1350655

      Gee, xnman … what happened to bloated?

      "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    • Member, MVP Posts: 1,607

      This page now displays as Spanish for me. Very odd.

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    • Member Posts: 14,362 ✭✭✭✭
      https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1350676#Comment_1350676

      And I just made a blank conment I didn't make (outside bird feeding).

      "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    • MVP Posts: 16,210
      https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1350676#Comment_1350676

      Did you by chance click on the Spanish button at the page bottom? Does it correct back to English when you click the Engish button?

      Have joy in the Lord! Smile

    • Member, MVP Posts: 1,607
      https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1350684#Comment_1350684

      I appreciate the tip! I'm sure that was it. I was looking for a language setting, but it's more accessible than I anticipated.

    • Member Posts: 233 ✭✭✭

      Quoting @Aaron Hamilton -

      more accessible than I anticipated

      Love your wording here! It made me laugh out loud…

    • Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,062
      https://community.logos.com/discussion/244744/reply-to-jason

      To @Mike Childs and others who have having difficulty navigating the new forums.

       I didn't even see how to respond to your post, so I just had to start a new post.

      A post is a question, discussion, idea, or poll and that starts a discussion. A comment is a response to that post (as I am doing here, and others above have done in this discussion). There is no need to start a new post to continue a discussion; a member simply either scrolls to the end of the discussion or they click the "Quote" button and add their comment to the thread in the box that says "Leave a Comment."

      It is hard to find help for a problem

      Find help for your problem by starting a new post or searching the community.

      • New Post: Throughout the community is a blue box that reads "New Post." Start a new post—either a question, discussion, idea (feedback), or poll—by clicking that box.
      • Search: Search the community using the magnifying glass or the "Advanced Search" button found in the Quicklinks section.

      Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

    • Member Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭

      To have to start a new post to answer a question seems frankly stupid to me. This is another example of how Logos is moving in the wrong direction.


      "In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

    • Member Posts: 727 ✭✭✭
      https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351911#Comment_1351911

      But you did not have to, you just did not find the "Leave a comment"-box.

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