Logos 4 Original Languages vs BibleWorks 9

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  • BKMitchell
    BKMitchell Member Posts: 658 ✭✭✭

    fgh said:

    Thanks. If I ever get back to Jerusalem, I really will
    try to book a visit to the Karaite Center. So far I've only been
    outside.

    I have gotten way of topic, but

    If, you live in the states there is a famous Karaite congregation I know of in Daly City, California called, Temple B'nai Israel sounds like a reform synagogue, I know.

    http://www.karaites.org/index.html

    Now, back to the topic. Logos and Logos4 are cool and they have English interpretations of the Talmuds and the Mishnah, too. I hope they will acquire the Hebrew versions as well, soon. I think Logos has enough material to even produce a Jewish base-package as, well!

    POST SCRIPT:

    One, of the neat things about Logos I like is that one no longer needs to worry about if he/she should buy a Mac or a PC, because Logos runs on everything but Linux. And, with VirtualBox Logos may even run on Linux. So, one may take his/her Logos library anywhere because Logos is flexible enough to migrate from one platform to another. Usually, without need for an emulator.

     

    חַפְּשׂוּ בַּתּוֹרָה הֵיטֵב וְאַל תִּסְתַּמְּכוּ עַל דְּבָרַי

  • robrecht
    robrecht Member Posts: 25 ✭✭

    Robert, let us know what you decide after your eval, and why! It's fun to see and learn from others' experiences, and not many actually use both to make a decision so your input will be valuable to many. Thanks!

     

    Thanks, Dominick.

    I decided to follow the advice of several people here, namely to go with both programs, but from a budgetary perspective this means buying BibleWorks and supplementing it with the free Logos engine, free works, and purchasing some resources available on Logos but not with BibleWorks.  I waited until last week to finally purchase BibleWorks as I was scheduled for foot surgery and wanted to take advantage of the recovery period to start learning how to use it.  Making good progress. I had already downloaded Logos but not had much time to play with it yet. It was great fun reading Aristotle on my phone, 'though!

    Thanks again to everyone here for all the extremely helpful advice!

    Robrecht

  • robrecht
    robrecht Member Posts: 25 ✭✭

    Others contemplating this decision may be interested to know that starting next year, Accordance will be available for Windows, without the need for an emulator.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭

    Appreciate it. See http://community.logos.com/forums/t/53450.aspx

    The Mac users see this as motivation to 'fix' the Mac version of Logos4. The Windows people see it as motivation to speed up the windows version of Logos4.

    Me? Access to the Samaritan Torah and a searchable english translation of the Targums.

     

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,128

    robrecht said:

    Others contemplating this decision may be interested to know that starting next year, Accordance will be available for Windows

    Hm. I'm not interested. There's a long thread discussing the newest release of Accordance - some who looked at it claim these guys got their inspiration regarding UI etc from having a deep look at Logos.

    However, you may know that we are are guests of Bob Pritchett here - and while he tolerates us discussing competitor's products, he asks us to refrain from posting links to their websites, so you might want to edit your post accordingly.    

    Just sayin'

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • robrecht
    robrecht Member Posts: 25 ✭✭

    NB.Mick said:


    robrecht said:

    Others contemplating this decision may be interested to know that starting next year, Accordance will be available for Windows

    Hm. I'm not interested. There's a long thread discussing the newest release of Accordance - some who looked at it claim these guys got their inspiration regarding UI etc from having a deep look at Logos.

    However, you may know that we are are guests of Bob Pritchett here - and while he tolerates us discussing competitor's products, he asks us to refrain from posting links to their websites, so you might want to edit your post accordingly.    

    Just sayin'


    Thanks. I removed the link.
  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    robrecht said:

    I forgot to search for Philo complete works morphologically analyzed but I did search for Josephus and did not find it. But I was mostly comparing the packages

    Josephus (Greek morph) http://www.logos.com/product/5776/josephus-in-greek-niese-critical-edition-with-apparatus

    Philo (Greek morph) http://www.logos.com/product/7865/the-works-of-philo-greek-text-with-morphology

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Dean J
    Dean J Member Posts: 646 ✭✭

    I have both programs because they do different things.  When it comes to the original languages, BibleWorks (BW) beats Logos (L4) hands down IMHO.  When it comes to speed, BW runs like 2011 Ferrari Enzo and L4 runs like 1972 Ford Pinto.

    If you are doing any other type of biblical studying, L4 is the way to go.

    Why? BW was designed for people to study the original languages, and L4 was designed to be an electronic library.

     

    I've never used BWs. Can you fill me in a bit with what it does that Logos doesn't? I read Greek and Hebrew, and so the only language work I need is some parsing help at times, and to be able to search for certain words in my library. I've never felt that it doesn't have what I need, but now I'm intrigued: what am I missing by not having BWs?

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    Dean053 said:

    've never used BWs. Can you fill me in a bit with what it does that Logos doesn't? I read Greek and Hebrew, and so the only language work I need is some parsing help at times, and to be able to search for certain words in my library. I've never felt that it doesn't have what I need, but now I'm intrigued: what am I missing by not having BWs?

    An extra program taking up space on your computer.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • BKMitchell
    BKMitchell Member Posts: 658 ✭✭✭

    Dean053 said:

    I've never used BWs. Can you fill me in a bit with what it does that Logos doesn't?

    In all due respect your question has already been discussed in length. If, you go back through this read a read some of Tom Collinge as well as my comments on the matter you will find the answer to your question. You, might also want to take a look at the following thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/5280.aspx Alternatively, you can simply go to BibleWorks website and read about it.

    Now, on the other hand if you have never felt that Logos4 is missing anything, then Logos4 is clearly the right choice for you.

     

     

    חַפְּשׂוּ בַּתּוֹרָה הֵיטֵב וְאַל תִּסְתַּמְּכוּ עַל דְּבָרַי

  • Nathan Parker
    Nathan Parker Member Posts: 807 ✭✭✭

    I never had a chance to invest in BW, but one feature from BW that would be neat to see would be the ability to click on a word in a Bible and have it search all my lexicons and Bibles and run a Bible Word Study report. I know you can get to these on the right-click menu, etc., but it would be really intuitive to be able to click on a word and have this ability.

    Dr. Nathan Parker

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,492
    edited December 2024

    @Nathan Parker

    You resurrected a thread that is more than a decade old … Personal opinion not MVP consensus: It took me a while to find your post to see why the thread on two obsolete products had been resurrected. For the way I scan the forums, it would have saved me time if you started a new thread and referenced this thread as your inspiration.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭

    Does the Bible Word Study Guide set in a Layout and Link Set not meet the desired outcome?

    Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14

  • BKMitchell
    BKMitchell Member Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2024

    Thanks for resurrect this thread! It was fun to go back and re-read again! Had you started a new thread I would have missed out on reading my own comments from the past as well as the historical context and photos other people posted here! Also, I agree with you that it would be cool to have such a feature.

    חַפְּשׂוּ בַּתּוֹרָה הֵיטֵב וְאַל תִּסְתַּמְּכוּ עַל דְּבָרַי

  • Nathan Parker
    Nathan Parker Member Posts: 807 ✭✭✭

    @MJ. Smith Thanks! I thought about starting a new thread, but since there was already BW discussion, I thought I'd contribute to something already here.

    @Frank Sauer It might. I'll play around with it.

    Dr. Nathan Parker