Step to next/previous-Article should step by Pericope in Bibles

John Z.
John Z. Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
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The step to next/previous feature is great. For Bibles, the Article selection should step by pericope instead of chapters. Chapters is already a selection possibility.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,149
    edited December 2024

    The article option steps by pericope in the Bibles that have them. It would be nice to have the submenu note this.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • John Z.
    John Z. Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Thanks for the info. All of the following bibles have pericope titles. Only three jump by pericope. So it is more of a bible formatting issue than a software issue. Hopefully more bibles are formatted to take advantage of the feature!
    ESV & ESV-CE - jumps by chapter
    RSV2CE - jumps by chapter
    NLT - jumps by chapter
    NABRE - jumps by chapter
    NIV - jumps by chapter
    CSB - jumps by chapter
    NASB95 - jumps by chapter
    NET & NET2e - jumps by pericope
    NRSV-CE - jumps by pericope

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,149

    This is a user set parameter

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    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351103#Comment_1351103

    I checked a couple of the Bibles he indicated (which have pericopes); even when you set the parameter to Article, it steps to the next Chapter, unlike the NRSV-CE which correctly steps to the next pericope.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,149
    edited December 2024

    Can you give me your examples to test? Any that do not jump by pericope should be reported as a bug.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351114#Comment_1351114

    I tried the ESV, NIV, and CSB.

  • John Z.
    John Z. Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Mr. Smith. Just do exactly what I did.
    1) Choose a bible
    2) Make sure "Step to next/previous" is set to Article
    3) Hit the up and down arrows and observe what happens

    I gave you the results from 11 different bibles already. The data speaks for itself.
    1) The feature does work as advertised (stepping to pericopes when available)
    2) Only a few bibles are formatted properly to take advantage of this feature

    (I just checked again as some bibles were recently update. Interestingly, NRSV doesn't jump to pericope, but NRSV-CE does!)

    PS: Thanks for the interest!

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2024

    MJ (she) has already written up a bug report for this. I’m using my phone right now and I won’t trouble myself to look for the link to post here.

    ETA: I'm back on my laptop; here is her post:

    https://community.logos.com/discussion/244864/bug-why-dont-these-bibles-navigate-by-pericope
  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,149

    @John Z.

    (I just checked again as some bibles were recently update. Interestingly, NRSV doesn't jump to pericope, but NRSV-CE does!)

    The NRSV does jump by pericope for me which is why I thought you had the unit of step set incorrectly.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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