The problems with promoting Ai generated Bible teaching

There is some valid insight here - I wonder how many of said semi-literate ministers have access to consistent, stable internet access to benefit from any AI assistance…. As taking for granted stable, consistent access to the web could also be viewed in the modern/Western (or at least developed) worldview…

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/ai-bible-translation/ Here's the link @Mark Allison posted.

Thanks Frank! No matter what I do, I can't make my links hyperlinkable! I add a space after, but that doesn't help.

Are you seeing the small popup after hitting the space bar at the end of the link?

No. I'm using Safari on a Mac. Perhaps that's the reason?

Possibly - if you have pop-ups blocked, I'd try allowing them on the Logos site

To me, AI is different in degree but not in kind from many other things that already exist. If you use a sermon outline from a random book without properly letting the text shape you personally, that makes me uncomfortable. If you have a friend who has read a book already and you ask them for a chapter summary to decide whether you are interested in reading it yourself, I don't see an issue. The fact that AI can enable us to do the same things faster does not change what is ethical and what is not.

Our church has a ministry supporting frontier Bible translation, where many people groups do not have a written language. One of our members is a computer programmer and created an app that lets translators upload their work as they go, and provide it to the indigenous group immediately. After consultation with translators and church planters, they decided to set it up as an Android app, because cheap cell phones charged off solar panels are becoming extremely common, even in some of the most remote places in like the world like Papua. Something like 15 different translators have started using this system since launch a little over a year ago.

Agree with your first view and the second "outreach" testimony is awesome!

Technology has a lot of risks, but I was amazed to see the way God has used it for unreached peoples! There are lots of caveats, like the need to use AM radio quality audio because of the expense of internet access, and a feature in the works to let people share updates from person to person for where it is not available or is inconsistent. But the future of access is staggering.

Before pasting your link, tap the insert media icon. It looks like an empty HTML tag. <> and is just to the left of the paper clip icon.

BTW the article you linked too is very interesting.

Yes, AI is an excellent tool for Bible translation. I am personally using it for that exact reason to translate the LXX.

Septuaginta, hg. v. Alfred Rahlfs, zweite, verbesserte Auflage, hg. v. Robert Hanhart, © 2006 Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft, Stuttgart

But it is important that the translation is not accepted at face value. It helps to have a working knowledge of Greek too if doing it from a Greek translation. And to check everything against the 4 available translations in English, if doing an English translation, which I am. I think the Gospel Coalition article makes a lot of good points about this:

"That draft can then be used by translators to complete a final translation. In other words, previously translated portions of Scripture are used by AI to generate drafts of other portions of Scripture that are then checked and developed by translation teams."

That is my approach. I am acquainted with some of the folks at Seed Company and they are doing this too out in the field for other languages. AI in and of itself is neither evil nor good. The person using it determines how AI will be used. Just like guns do not kill people, people kill people with guns.

Once AI is in full control of the antichrist, that will be a different story. It will be evil then, and possibly before then.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/ai-bible-translation/

@Todd Sumrall

Once AI is in full control of the antichrist, that will be a different story. It will be evil then, and possibly before then.

Well, that escalated quickly…

I like your humor.

That is where it is heading and there is nothing funny about it.

I think you missed the point … your discussion was pretty much all positive, and then at the end, disaster. How you framed your point.

But I agree, maybe from a differing perspecitve. Even 25 years back, we used neural nets in business analysis and projections. And in presentations, our software had to be 'translated' into human terms for fellow executives. They were well educated, etc, but the machine could accomodate far more factors/influences than the human mind normally can.

And therein lies the problem … the confidence of the human mind, versus the power of silicon. Humans can't not rely on their minds. I've not seen much theological discussion on that … the presumption that the conscious struggling 'mind' is the basis for judgment.

Logos AI, alternatively, delivers 'knowledge' … the old gnostic solution. For old Logosians, that was George's point.

I'm guessing you're not a post-millennialist.

I am still amazed when I see people can't see what is plainly happening in the here and now in this world and how plain it has already been described in the Bible. I know that our, by this I mean the Western Church, is drunk on this world, and drunk on the poison that is in that golden cup that is in the whore's hand that sits on the beast. I was reading 2Peter chapter 2 this morning and more than once the phrase "there will be false", "Many will", "the way of truth will be", "will exploit" and phrases like this over and over in that chapter. This is just a sample of what is in 2 Peter chapter 2. The fact that this is just the way things are and these things are going to be progressively getting worse at an accelerated pace in my generation, does not give me any happiness knowing this even though we are told that this is the reality of the age we live in. I just wish people could see what is happening in the unseen realm more clearly. It is just not possible when we are drinking from that whore's cup and are drunk.

Just a quick reminder that the forum is for discussions of Logos and that theological debates are better hashed out on other websites. Discussion of when/how to use AI ethically was appropriate because it deals with the software. But raw debates about eschatology are against forum guidelines.