The Mobile Pop-up is ruinous

Jim · 2025-02-21T17:05:37+00:00

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Stop. Stop adding things to the mobile pop-up. You are ruining the mobile app.

First off, the thing pops up if I just tap on the screen. At least add a timer so that it pops up only after a reasonable (read "more") time of touching the screen.

Secondly, I used to love touching a word and getting the original language information. But now you've added so many choices to the pop-up that I have to work through menu choices to get that EVERY time I want to use the popup. In particular, you have a bug that needs fixing: If I open the popup and go to the original language information, then close the popup and open it on another word, I have to hit the popup's back arrow to go back to the main menu then select word information again. Such a waste of time, but far worse is that all this navigation distracts me from my study focus. I'd like to have the choice of having the popup stay on a setting, like word information.

Thirdly. As I'm attempting to scroll through text, the app most often thinks I'm trying to highlight. You really need to change the delays such that I need to hold onto one word much longer before the app thinks I'm highlighting rather than scrolling. The app used to work well, but now it's become a pain to use.

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Mark Barnes (Logos)

the thing pops up if I just tap on the screen

What thing?

If I open the popup and go to the original language information, then close the popup and open it on another word, I have to hit the popup's back arrow to go back to the main menu then select word information again. Such a waste of time, but far worse is that all this navigation distracts me from my study focus. I'd like to have the choice of having the popup stay on a setting, like word information.

We're doing a lot of work to improve this experience. You should see things get significantly better over the next two versions.

As I'm attempting to scroll through text, the app most often thinks I'm trying to highlight.

If you prefer, you can turn off "Swipe to highlight" in "View Settings" (top right of any resource).

Jim

I'm talking about the pop-up window that allows various features such as highlighting, copying, word info, etc.

David Paul

I used to have the same "I'm enjoying scrolling…oh, no, now I've just chosen something random and its metastasizing into some note-generating beast that is devouring links and will I ever get my program back" experience. Definitely turn off swipe-to-highlight.

Re: your other issues…FL is constantly "upgrading" the software, which inevitably means that things you use on a daily basis will eventually become inaccessible, broken, or just plain deprecated. Approximately 80% of features I once used on a daily basis now no longer work as they once did, and after years of begging and pleading, maaaaybe 5% has been restored, but I'm probably being overly generous. FL is definitely addicted to MOOAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!! If, in implementing the new, shiny, whiz-bang whatzits, it results in users being disenfranchised from the well-established system they've carefully developed…well, you can always just go hang.

DMM

Sometimes I wish they would make an additional, simplified app. No bells or whistles. Just for reading, maybe allow some simple highlighting. Make it compatible with more devices. Logos Lite.

In Nov 2023 I bought a fire tablet. I only used it for Logos. Loved it. A couple months ago Logos upgraded the app and it won't work on it anymore. Logos will only support Kindle OS 8, and this had 7.x. So I'm stuck using it on the web app, which is less than ideal (the whole point of having it on the tablet was so that I can take it with me even if I don't have internet).

David Paul

I know nothing about fire tablets, but perhaps you could resell it on Amazon and then upgrade…assuming you can somehow port your stuff to the new one.

Mark Barnes (Logos)

I'm talking about the pop-up window that allows various features such as highlighting, copying, word info, etc.

That panel should only appear if you long press or double tap. It should never appear with a single tap.

What version of the app are you running? (Click the More button and scroll down to About.)

Jim

I'm using version 39.0.2 on an Android OnePlus 11 phone and a Samsung Tab S9. Works the same way on two identical phones. Both work the same way. What you call a long press is much less than a second. I admit sometimes it takes a few seconds, but it responds way too fast most of the time. Half of the time when I simply want to scroll the screen, it highlights instead of scrolling. So I regularly have to stop, select the highlight, and hit the trash can in the popup before moving on. Kinda ruins the experience.

I have had the same thoughts as DMM. Make a version without the bells and whistles, or let me turn off features and changed the timing of long press verses short press etc.

@Jim

I think you can control the long press duration here in Settings on your S9:

DEXTERITY AND INTERACTION

Touch and hold delay
Short (0.5 seconds)

Jim

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1359481#Comment_1359481

Thanks, I'll look at that.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1359478#Comment_1359478

There are some features that can be turned off, Swipe to highlight being one of them.

I do understand your frustration about the long press. However, I'm not sure how much increasing the timing of the long press would help. Perhaps a small increase in time would be helpful, but most of the problem I experienced related to me resting my finger too long on the text before scrolling. I've taught myself to only touch the screen when I'm ready to scroll. Now, I will actually begin the scroll movement with my finger before it even touches the screen. This prevents me from accidently activating the long-press functionality.

Jim

I like having options and features, but I really think Logos is overdoing it on the mobile app. The app used to be such a pleasure to use and now it seems the kitchen sink has been thrown into it making the display way bloated and extremely distracting.

Yasmin Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1359851#Comment_1359851

There are some mobile-only users clamoring for the kitchen sink. Even with optional settings (which I think Logos is not good at providing), it's hard to avoid some features being in the face of users who may not want them. It's probably hard for Logos to satisfy both the minimalists and the full parity seekers.