Is there a way I can go back to a logos 10 version without the AI search bar on the dashboard?
I guess I kind of expected for my software to stay the same after purchase minus the bug fixes and what not. I didn't realize I would get new stuff added that I don't want.
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No, it won't stay the same which is true of many software products now. It is much cheaper for a company to support only one or two versions of the software than to provide support for old versions. This means the user is running the latest version with the advantage of more funds available for enhancements.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Well thank goodness Logos is staying cheap. Otherwise I would have had to use the software version I was expecting to own when I dropped $3,000 on a Logos package. What a Joke.
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If you don't like the search bar you might consider changing your program settings.
'At Startup Open to' choose blank layout. Then you can go back and forth to the dashboard by utilizing the dashboard icon as you will.
Peace and good,
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“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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And you can always turn off updates for a while. True, with updates, bugs get fixed, but new bugs arrive. Choose your bugs.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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No. What needs to happen is for Logos to provide a setting to hide this disrespectful intrusion into my space, not for me to change how I use the dashboard. My dashboard is customized as my landing page to access my frequently used layouts and my in-progress courses, and whatever else I feel like adding at will. I don't want to see anything else on there, and I don't want Logos to force stuff on there. Why should I now open to a blank layout just to get around something that could've been set as optional? Did Logos genuinely think EVERYONE wanted a search bar on their dashboard? If they did … here, I'll keep my thoughts to myself.
Though I've never had the desire to randomly start a search from the dashboard (and I highly doubt I ever will), I applaud Logos for taking the time to provide this search bar for those who were clamoring for it (seriously, the clamoring was deafening!), but I wish they had respected my space and made it optional.
@Mark Barnes (Logos) I hope Logos swiftly provides a setting to hide this search bar for those of us who want nothing to do with it; I don't want to continue feeling irritated whenever I go to use my Bible study software just because this is the first thing that hits my eyes. Thank you.
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Did Logos genuinely think
EVERYONEwanted a search bar on their dashboard? If they did … here, I'll keep my thoughts to myself.One the other hand, some of us have priorities other than making it optional. Speaking only for myself, I can name several bug fixes I would rank as higher priority. Remember every time any of us makes a request (which I do often) we are also asking for a project of comparable size to not be done. I happen to have philosophical objections to starting study with a search, so I expect to never use the feature nor to ever consider it a visual enhancement to the page. Like many Logos options, I will simply ignore it. I can see its usefulness to a group of users that does not include me.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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My immediate reaction is why do you think making it optional is EVERYONE's first choice for the use of Logos resources?
I’m no programmer, but I would imagine this is hardly a difficult or resource demanding task. Just add another checkbox to toggle the search bar. (Or the AI features in general, but I digress)
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I am a (retired) programmer and know that every such option is another testing path option and a potential failure point in the code. You would be astonished at the amount of work that can be involved in code management, documentation, testing, etc. a simple patch.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I'm quite confident (a) they're not stupid, (b) they knew they were intruding (some reportedly do Bible study), but © (copyrighted) they wanted what they wanted. Too often, it's easy to design in an option; it's messier later. They know that.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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If we're going to speak about priorities, I'll admit to being sarcastic when I mentioned the deafening clamor for a search bar on the dashboard. I have my own priorities as well, and this feature seems like a random indulgence to me. But, for all that, I have no problem with the search bar itself. My problem is with Logos not being farsighted enough to make it optional at the get-go. Everything else on the dashboard is optional, why not this one?
I wish, like you, I could "simply ignore it" but I can't. It is right there in my face, like a waving banner. I already ignore many things in Logos easily enough because, unlike this search bar, they don't wave themselves provokingly in my face.
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Logos seems to love their 'everybody gets a car' mode of developing features. Options? What options? You get a search bar! You get a search bar! Everybody gets a search bar on their dashboard!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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Well, gee, they said a car! Good point.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I believe the product (Logos 10) is mature enough to be run with the automatic upgrade option turned off.
Somethings either I haven’t figured out yet or aren’t built into the software - For example the slide builder in Sermon Builder (is that what is called?). I can’t figure out how to make it use a certain font, the font size or color… or how to control where the text will land on (center, topmost, bottom, etc)… so I wrote a script to build the powerpoint file, reading the verse list fromr a Passage List.
I don’t plan to use the AI search anytime soon, as I get assisted by ChatGPT well enough… as far as, structuring documents that i write, to maintain documents both in english and spanish, to perform some research, to generate fill-in-the-blank sheets for small groups, ChatGPT works well for me.
Perhaps later in time, I’ll finally find a flaw big enough in ChatGPT to make the switch. :)
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