Important Update: NRSV, NRSVCE, and Reverse Interlinear Versions Leaving Logos

Cheyenne Lehto · 2025-05-21T15:53:08+00:00

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Dear Logos Community,

Due to licensing changes, the following products will be going out of print across all platforms and retailers, including Logos:

These resources will remain on sale in Logos through May 31, but after that date, they’ll no longer be for sale anywhere.

Why is it leaving Logos?
This change is the result of a publisher licensing updates outside of our control. While we’ve greatly valued the opportunity to make these resources available to Logos users, we are now required to remove them from sale after May 31, 2025.

What’s next
If you already own these products, you will continue to own them forever in Logos. Nothing will change.

If you do not already own these titles but want to, you can purchase them before May 31—and you’ll save up to 55% in the process!

We will continue to offer the NRSVUE. (The NRSVUE Catholic Edition is not yet available from the publisher.) Our Logos team is also working diligently to update existing sellable collections that include the NRSV and NRSVCE before May 31. Again, if you already own these products or collections, you will continue to own them after May 31.

Act fast to get a piece of Bible study history added to your library before it’s gone for good!

> Get the NRSV

> Get the NRSVCE

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NichtnurBibelleser

@Cheyenne Lehto Thanks for the heads-up. Talking about Interlinears: The only catholic German translation, the Einheitsübersetzung, still lacks data for the Deuterocanonical books. Any chance that this will be added soon?

Kyle G. Anderson

Talking about Interlinears: The only catholic German translation, the Einheitsübersetzung, still lacks data for the Deuterocanonical books. Any chance that this will be added soon?

This isn't on any of our current roadmaps. I recommend you make a suggestion here.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369880#Comment_1369880

Kyle, will Logos ever learn that the majority of Christians of all faiths use the deuterocanonicals to some extent. As long as Logos treats them as optional rather than secondary, Logos is decreasing its growth and recommendations. Logos has a reputation of being biased towards Evangelical and Reformed and needs to change that reputation to actually grow in both the academic and church markets.

DAL

And I think this needs to be said: Please, DO NOT WAIT until June 1st, 2025 to start saying that you waited til the last moment to buy it and that it was sitting in your cart and that you forgot all about it and that if there’s any way FL could make an exception for you and so on and so forth! If you don’t own it but want to own it and you’re seeing this post today and the emails and the banner in the Logos website, do yourself and everyone else a favor — Buy it TODAY!

DAL

Ps. This may seem like a sarcastic or mean post, but trust me, it’s an honest and well intentioned post, because it’s not the first time something like this or similar has happened. So no need to take it the wrong way. Just take the advice to avoid unnecessary posts about how some missed out on this opportunity.

John

@NichtnurBibelleser

The only catholic German translation, the Einheitsübersetzung, still lacks data for the Deuterocanonical books

Does the printed edition contain the books in question?

Fabian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369932#Comment_1369932

JA.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369922#Comment_1369922

I just can't decide. Sure it's unbelivably discounted. And includes an interlinear for just about everything you can think of. And makes use of the most powerful software ever (yes, ever) written for Bible study.

Then, (shhhhh), 'some' say it's the better translation. Hints of 1984.

Wow, this is a pretty tough decision! Maybe I need more time.

DAL

LOL DMB, thanks, your comment might actually help some people see the point I was trying to make. Believe or not there are many who leave a decision like this for the very last minute or even for when it’s too late. I’ve seen people posting asking for a sale price on a resource that was heavily discounted the month before because they admitted to having waited until the sale was gone.

Michelle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1370014#Comment_1370014

Why am I hearing this in Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson's voice. 😂

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1370019#Comment_1370019

Your reminder was apropo. I remember when the older NIV got withdrawn … not my favorite translation, so I ignored the warnings. I ended up with the Anglicized. Regretted every since (not getting it when warned).

GaoLu

Whew! I got to sweating and double checked what I knew to be true: I own kit and kaboodle.

But if you have not yet made a decision, act now, or all may be Lost!

Chuck Kelley

Ignorant question.
I bought the Catholic version of the NRSV RI because I wanted to have "everything" and have it be future proof. I'm not Catholic but I might want to study the deuterocanonical books someday, so why not own it? However, when I go to the 'normal' NRSV RI, it shows that I don't own it. I assumed it would just be a lesser included part of the NRSV RI Catholic Version.

So, Do I need to spend the $10.51 to buy it or do I really have everything I need?

John W Gillis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1370097#Comment_1370097

Actually, you would have been better off buying the "normal" NRSV RI. You appear to be primarily interested in content, not presentation, and the NRSV With Apocrypha contains all the text included in the NRSV-CE, plus a handful of other books which are not part of the deuterocanon and thus not in the Catholic Edition (i.e. the six books listed at the end of the NRSV Apocrypha, starting with 1 Esdras, through 4 Maccabees).

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

The NRSVCE Reverse Interlinear and NRSV Reverse Interlinear are two different resources (just as the NRSVCE and NRSV are different).

You can't use the NRSVCE Reverse Interlinear with the NRSV (or vice versa).

DMB

Well, you'll be missing some of the apocrypha, and the book order will drive you up the wall (given your other Bibles).

The two are different products. NRSV (non-Catholic) is the bigger one.

Ronald Quick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1370097#Comment_1370097

If it were me, I would get the additional resource because this would be my last chance to do so. (But that's just me). You can look and see if the NRSV is still included in any bundles. Depending on the resources you own, it may only cost you a few bucks.

Chuck Kelley

Thank you all! I’m just going to spend the $10. Thanks for explaining it.

Mark Allison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369907#Comment_1369907

Imagine if Logos put Revelation in a separate appendix like Luther did. Or removed it entirely because of its late addition to the canon in some traditions.

The fact that Logos has no plans to add these missing books is embarrassing.

John

Isn't it the publisher that determines which books are in a Bible? How is this Logos' fault?

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1370432#Comment_1370432

It's not the books that are missing, but the Reverse Intelinears

P. Christoph Blohberger

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369880#Comment_1369880

@Kyle G. Anderson
He did. In January.

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369862#Comment_1369862

There are other Catholic translations though (Pattloch, Herder, possibly more.)

As far as I'm aware, none of them has data for the apocrypha though.

NichtnurBibelleser

There are other Catholic translations though (Pattloch, Herder, possibly more.)
As far as I'm aware, none of them has data for the apocrypha though.

As far as I see, The Einheitsübersetzung is the only catholic German translation with Interlinear data. And from that, the Deuterocanonical books are still without Interlinear data.

Kathleen Marie

Is this the first time that an academic translation has been pulled?

The AS and RSV were never pulled? Who owns the RSV? Is the RSV owned by the same people that own the NRSV?

MJ. Smith

IIRC Logos is actually working on improving the deuterocanonical data at this time. I may be mistaken but …

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1370554#Comment_1370554

No, the Jerusalem Bible was pulled despite still being used in lectionaries.

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1370597#Comment_1370597

Thank you so much for this information!