42.1 (42.1.010) is now available!
The Logos Bible Study application version 42.1 is now available to all users.
To immediately update to the current stable version, enter Update Now into the command box. Otherwise, the app will automatically update the next time it is scheduled to check for updates.
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Labelling search tabs is a good idea but I do not find the current implementation useful. The reason is that the label is automatically generated and too long a reproduction of the search string. As one multiplies panels, there is not enough space available on the tabs to show these labels. Even with a layout that divides the screen in two and has three tabs on each side on a 24 inches monitor, search tabs only have space to display "Search" which is not an improvement. Really, the best would be able to rename tabs ourselves.
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Good Download Setup file! Our Proclaim app did not run on Sunday 2025-05-25; the desktop icon was clicked, the app blinked then did not load. No problem right? Rebooted 2X with no success. Then went to the Proclaim site, downloaded the Windows compatible set up file; on install there was an error indicating a critical source set up file could not be found! Thinking it may be a PC issue, I downloaded the setup file on a 2nd and 3rd backup PC, all resulted in the same install error as the initial error. So we frantically scrambled to build the the church service in a Power Point app & ran the service from there! I will have to try the new 42.1 setup on the problem PC.
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I'd recommend making a feedback post regarding "renaming the tabs ourselves", as you notice with the current implementation the label of the tab does depend on the width of your panel and depending on how long your syntax is, will impact the label name.
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I agree with the essence of your comment, but I have found that hovering over the search tabs provides very useful information. Therefore, while I was initially dissatisfied with the change, I have since grown very appreciate of it. A quick hover from one to the next over my search tabs for me is easier and more efficient than clicking and looking.
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This suggestion already exists and you can vote for it:
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Imo, there should be a difference in the way that feedback on a feature that's not working great is communicated and handled versus suggestions more generally. Suggestions seems to get lost in the voting system. I am not suggesting something entirely new. I am reporting that something is not working great as it is and mentioning one idea to improve it.
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Hovering over tabs does not show anything in my installation.
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Good morning! It wasn't working for me either, after I updated, until I restarted. After restarting, I see the full search when I hover over the search tab. And it is awesome! Thank you, Logos team.
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@Maria thank you for pointing this out. I'm afraid that it is not the solution for me. I have restarted Logos many times since the update. Just to make sure I do not misunderstand what we are talking about, @Aaron Hamilton and you are saying that while you have a bunch of panels open, you can hover over a search panel tab (which is not in the foreground) and it will show you a tooltip of sorts of its search query?
I see something in the tab when (1) there are very few tabs displayed, otherwise the tabs shrink to showing just "search," (2) I never see any information by just hovering over a search tab in the background.
I run 42.1 in Windows.
Foreground search panel:
Background search panel:
Both of these screenshots represent half a layout in which the desktop space is divided in two equal tiles. The screenshot represents one side (one tile) on a 24 inches monitor with Logos maximized.
I wonder if there is a setting that must be set in a particular way needed for the feature to work. Nothing jumped at me when I looked through my settings.0 -
@Francis this is what it looks like on Mac with a lot of tabs open, I am sure it's similar on Windows (picture at the bottom). These are called Tooltips, a feature used in many Windows apps.
Have you checked the setting in Logos - Settings, 'Show Information Tooltips' set to yes?
Old graphic cards or old drivers can stop tooltips from working. It would be useful to see if this is a Logos only issue (hence the setting check above), or all of Windows (do Tooltips work in File Explorer? Just open it, and hover over the 1 tab that comes up)
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@NetworkGeek thank you for your suggestions and for the screenshot. Have you verified that it works in Windows? There are frequently bugs that affect one platform but not the other. Yes, 'Show Information Tooltips' is set to yes. Yes, tooltips show fine in Windows.
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@Francis try a Smart search. You should see the panel name change after running a Smart search but not when executing a Precise search. Let me know if that helps and clears things up.
I can update our release note to make that more clear.
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@Matt Mattox I will try next time I run a smart search. That being said, yes, it would be good to update the release notes to make this clearer. Also, why is it limited to smart searches only?
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They definitely need an update. In Windows 11, I have one Search panel in each of two vertical tiles and I see either Search when the tab is open or its icon when closed. Open or closed, hovering reveals details of the search. The behaviour applies to both Precise and Smart Search.
The tab is not named with the search string.
I prefer it this way, so don't change a thing!
Verbum 42.0 and Logos 42.1
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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I misspoke and I apologies. I just ran more test and I am getting the panel name to change after running a precise search. I believe for your instance, the panel width is to narrow. Can you try with maybe using 1-2 panels and making the width of the panel take a larger portion of the screen and report back?
First image shows the panel name while executing a Precise search.
Second image is with my panel width being more narrow.
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@Francis do you see a hover tip when hovering over any of your panels? Is it just Search that isn't working, or all of them?
Every panel should display a tip showing the full panel title:
(And, yes, this does work on Windows.)
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@Bradley Grainger (Logos) well… some tooltips "decided" to show up today! No idea what changed (I am still using the same layout as the previous days). So here is what is happening:
- I tested the other tabs (not search tabs). The tooltips appear. Not sure whether they did before because I was so focused on testing on search tabs specifically. They do now.
- One search tab shows the tooltip today. That's new (first time I see one since the update).
- Another search tab does not show the tooltip, not sure why. I tried swapping locations in case size had anything to do it changed nothing. The one shows (wherever I place it), the other does not (wherever I place it).
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I'm going to guess you haven't actually run a Search in that panel yet; it's just an empty panel. (Or you just loaded a layout with a Search in it, which defers running the Search until you activated the panel, which results in the same outcome. I can see how it would be helpful to force the long tab title to be generated in this scenario.)
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I'm going to guess you haven't actually run a Search in that panel yet; it's just an empty panel.
@Bradley Grainger (Logos) I am not sure what you mean. My screenshot shows that both searches are populated (no empty panel). And no, they were not loaded with the layout. I even just ran the very same search in both panels now. On panel tab shows the tooltip when I hover on it, the other does not.
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Sorry, I was not paying close-enough attention to your screenshot.
I'm not sure why it's not working on your computer.
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@Matt Mattox Can you try with maybe using 1-2 panels and making the width of the panel take a larger portion of the screen and report back?
When opened in a narrower floating window the tab name reflects the search, as it is the only tab. Then it reverts to showing Search/icon when docked. I like this treatment.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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@Francis apologies for not seeing your comments earlier. You have certainly identified a bug in the new Search tooltip popup. I am able to reproduce the same behavior you are experiencing.
@Bradley Grainger (Logos) when dragging Search from the application toolbar to a new tab of a panel already open, the first instance of Search does not show the tooltip. Following instances of Search do show the tooltip.
Upon further testing, I have not found this behavior to be consistently reproducible. However, when I open my ESV Bible to fill the screen and then drag Search from the toolbar to replace half of the screen, this also frequently results in the search tab not showing the tooltip.
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