NDBT - Not showing up under theological lens in factbook after update - Am I missing something?

Hi Everyone,

I've been using Logos for a while and even so I am still getting used to how to find things/topics in my library. This remains a bit of a challenge for me as I often search for a topic or something and then the general results don't really satisfy my question so I dig into my library and find a book and stumble upon the exact info I was looking for. The problem is this book/resource did not show up in my search results or tagged in Factbook so it feels like I might be missing on the 'gold nuggets' hidden in my library.

For instance, Logos now incorporates the theology guide into Factbook in their latest update, however, searching for a theological topic (The Attributes of God or Righteousness) that is clearly defined in the NDBT does not show up at all in Factbook>Theological Lense, instead it just recommends more books I don't own and lists the irrelevant books.

Similarly, Smart Search does not yield any results from the book I actually wanted to get the info from and instead lists all other sorts of irrelevant results from 'lesser' authoritative resources. So what I now have to do is either open the book manually from my library and search topics there or run a search using the book as a filter.

This doesn't quite seem right and I'm concerned that I might be missing out on important resources by just 'trusting' that smart search or the guides will list the right books/resources.

I've made sure to prioritize all my resources I want to get information from but what use is spending money on a large library if you still have to glean the information manually!?

Am I missing something here?

Thanks.

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Graham Criddle

For instance, Logos now incorporates the theology guide into Factbook in their latest update, however, searching for a theological topic (The Attributes of God or Righteousness) that is clearly defined in the NDBT does not show up at all in Factbook>Theological Lens

Similarly, Smart Search does not yield any results from the book I actually wanted to get the info from and instead lists all other sorts of irrelevant results from 'lesser' authoritative resources.

Factbook will only show those books which are specifically selected / tagged for that topic or where the books specifically focus on it. So it's worth flagging this to the Logos team and see if they are planning to add necessary tagging to this book.

Smart Search will show the results that are considered most relevant - which may not include the specific book you are interested in.

instead it just recommends more books I don't own

This shouldn't happen unless you are either using the Discover lens or the Store tab in the Books section. If you are not looking at either of those, please post a screenshot showing what you see.

SavedbyGrace

Hi @Graham Criddle , thank you for taking the time to reply.

This is what I am seeing with the Factbook's theological lense when searching for "God's Righteousness":

I just feel like there are 'better' books in my library that I would rather have Logos draw information from and to remember these books and to search them manually is kind of a pain. So the thought lingers in my mind now with every search: "What if there is a resource in my library that has better information but I'm not seeing it in my current search."

How do you deal with this or what would you suggest perhaps?

Thanks again.

Kyle G. Anderson

The lack of results in Guidebook is a data issue. We'll take a look.

It also brings up an important question of how we return results relating to righteousness as there can be several different nuances and points of emphasis (i.e. God's righteousness vs. righteousness as it relates to people).

MJ. Smith

@Kyle G. Anderson

The lack of results in Guidebook is a data issue. We'll take a look.

Is Logos planning on changing the name to Guidebook?

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1380638#Comment_1380638

🤪I guess I let that one out of the bag. We're considering it and I use the term at work often enough that it slipped my mind that it's not a term out in the world.

SavedbyGrace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1380596#Comment_1380596

Thanks very much for your reply and for looking into the issue, @Kyle G. Anderson , much appreciated.

I guess the thing I am currently concerned about is how to get the best information from the books in my library that I prefer using tools like the Factbook (perhaps soon to be Guidebook 😅), smart search and so forth.

Fabian Jovanovic

Please keep the name Factbook @Kyle G. Anderson

Dave Hooton

@Kyle G. Anderson The lack of results in Guidebook is a data issue. We'll take a look.

My Factbook focuses on local data and it is disturbing that Theological Dictionaries are type:encyclopedia. Nothing for "Theology" types like NDBT which have appropriate Indexes.

T. L. Brown

What is the full title of the NDBT?

SavedbyGrace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1380879#Comment_1380879

Hi @T. L. Brown , It's the New Dictionary of Biblical Theology by Alexander, T. Desmond, and Brian S. Rosner.

New Dictionary of Biblical Theology - Logos Product.

T. L. Brown

@SavedbyGrace Thank you!