Tell me why I have Gold and Max ..?
thats it?? If I have to purchase all the good ones why have a subscription.
If I have to purchase all the good ones why have a subscription.
I've just checked and, as far as I can see, the subscription only includes one apparatus - the one you are showing
What were you expecting to see here?
@Graham Criddle I was watching some logos help on searching greek textual variants... I suspected that having the MAX an gold woul have givin me some options more than what is there.. again. I I have to purchase everything why the subscriptions... doesn't it give access? Max is supposed to be for more greek and hebrew searching. I think i'm expecting more out of this MAX and gold then what is really there..
Just looking at the offering, with the inclusion of Tregalles, no-royalties seems the key. I wouldn't call the SBL a usable apparatus … more handy for classing by mss-group.
Max is supposed to be for more greek and hebrew searching.
As far as I can see, the major increase in Max over Pro is in functionality as opposed to resources (although it does have more exegetical-type commentaries).
In terms of features it adds in things such as:
Yes…if you want to do bible study at the, "what does this verse mean to me" level, you can do that pretty cheaply. But if you want to do any serious study in a number of different avenues (including textual variants), you are going to pay, and pay.
@DMB hi, are you saying there is one available to add to my collection that is not an arm and leg..
Tregalles?
I'd like to build a $ commentary and such to have .. on a low $ budget… I have Gold/Max.. here is what I have when viewing "textual variant"
Tregalles referred to the greek text (in Max). Not many would start out with Tregalles greek, but no royalties for FL. And SBL liked it.
Doc B's post was cogent … basically budget for what is missing for you. The big boys want their money (NA or UBS variants). Even Tichendorf (dated and 'non-standard) would still run you $50 … good history but not your first choice.
Hello! @DMB is not the DMB you were trying to reach. The quote button is the best way for him to see your response. Blessings! DMB, The Real DMB of Logos
@DMB you have a good sense of humor!
@Jason Stone (Logos) can you fix this (multiple users with same name/same icon)? It is apparently confusing some (including me!).
Thank you for calling that out, @Doc B. I will work with @DMB to get this sorted.
To get the "scholarly standard" textual variants, I had to buy a German Bible Society Bundle in seminary. I'm not seeing it on the store at the moment. It was the successor to SESB.
It's a bundle that was difficult for Logos to include in some collections (even Gold), as GBS knew it was a premium bundle and wanted to charge a premium price for it. I couldn't have made it through seminary without it though.
Shalom,
To get the "scholarly standard" textual variants, I had to buy a German Bible Society Bundle in seminary. I'm not seeing it on the store at the moment.
The following search will show you the German Bible Society Bundles that are available in the Logos store:
https://www.logos.com/search?query=DBG-Bibelstudiensammlung&sortBy=Relevance&limit=60&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=availableToMe&viewMode=list
as GBS knew it was a premium bundle and wanted to charge a premium price for it.
IMHO the prices are reasonable. (Imagine what the prices would be if these resources had been published by Brill…)
You might find the (free) Personal Book I did many years ago helpful, which should still work as an Apparatus and has a lot of variant readings. You can find it in the thread
One more way to look at this problem is the "Manuscripts of the Greek New Testament" resource, which I'm guessing is included in your subscription.
I'd say do a reference search through this resource, and you'll locate at least where apparatuses mention this reference for your verse(s) for a particular manuscript as well as if there are images available (of course you need an account at the NTVMR to see many of the images). If you have the apparatus, the link should take you to the reading in the apparatus. You won't get transcriptions, though.
Unfortunately this data is only in the English edition of the Manuscripts of the GNT resource; that was all I was ever able to do while I was at Logos (and I have no expectation that this sort of data will be available in other language editions of the resource). I wish it was better accessible, because it can be very useful (especially if you have an account at the NTVMR).
@HJ. van der Wal True the cost would be more if they were from Brill. :-)
I'm still glad I spent the money on the GBS bundle, as I couldn't have survived seminary without it.
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