The impossible request: Loeb Library

While it would no doubt be the most expensive package Logos has or will ever put together (10g plus?) I would love to have access to these works. Even if Logos can do some type of package where they offer the library and then allow us to select 20-100 for each package. Again, I am sure that is a pipe dream. But couldn't hurt to ask.

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Ted Hans

Now what is the Leob Library or what is contained in this Library?

Ted

ZoesProudDaddy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/658#Comment_658

This

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/658#Comment_658

Now what is the Leob Library or what is contained in this Library?

Ted

Here's the web page from Harvard University Press: http://www.hup.harvard.edu/loeb/

- Rick

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/661#Comment_661

Now what is the Leob Library or what is contained in this Library?

Ted

Here's the web page from Harvard University Press: http://www.hup.harvard.edu/loeb/

- Rick

Thanks for the link

Paul Golder

While it would no doubt be the most expensive package Logos has or will ever put together (10g plus?) I would love to have access to these works. Even if Logos can do some type of package where they offer the library and then allow us to select 20-100 for each package. Again, I am sure that is a pipe dream. But couldn't hurt to ask.

I remember reading somewhere that one
of the long range goals of Logos is to have most every theological
work in print available in Libronix format one day (or at least
scanned into books.logos.com / www.seminarylibrary.com ).

So while it may not entirely be an
impossible request, it may be quite some time.

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1056#Comment_1056

While it would no doubt be the most expensive package Logos has or will ever put together (10g plus?) I would love to have access to these works. Even if Logos can do some type of package where they offer the library and then allow us to select 20-100 for each package. Again, I am sure that is a pipe dream. But couldn't hurt to ask.

I remember reading somewhere that one of the long range goals of Logos is to have most every theological work in print available in Libronix format one day (or at least scanned into books.logos.com / www.seminarylibrary.com ).

So while it may not entirely be an impossible request, it may be quite some time.

Can you imagine the $$$$$$$$$$.¢¢?

ZoesProudDaddy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1066#Comment_1066

Can you imagine the $$$$$.¢¢?

Hey, we can always mortgage our homes/ sell our cars/ the rights to our first son? I say it would be worth it! [8-|]

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1079#Comment_1079

Can you imagine the $$$.¢¢?

Hey, we can always mortgage our homes/ sell our cars/ the rights to our first son? I say it would be worth it!

Only BDAG or Migne are worth that.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1082#Comment_1082

IF exclusive rights could be secured to publish the whole thing, maybe LOGOS could expand the company with a new dedicated staff to publish the set by subscription. (Kinda like the Franklin Mint Book of the Month deal.)

This could be extremely profitable if LOGOS version 4.0 could export it to KIndle & other readers. Then on every college campus in the world you would hear the LOGOS start-up sound.[:)]

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/2679#Comment_2679

It's a slow day so I thought I'd reply to my own post again:

IF exclusive rights could be secured to publish the whole thing, maybe LOGOS could expand the company with a new dedicated staff to publish the set by subscription. (Kinda like the Franklin Mint Book of the Month deal.)

This could be extremely profitable if LOGOS version 4.0 could export it to KIndle & other readers. Then on every college campus in the world you would hear the LOGOS start-up sound.

Here we are, one year later. My post was a bit prophetic. We now have Logos 4 and iPhone/iPad apps. If we could get the Loeb Library in Pre-Pub I could just divert my kids' college money to the project and homeschool them through grad school. [8-|] I will revisit this thread next year. By then we may have Kindle, Android, Loeb, Britannica's Great Books. Who knows what else? Maybe even a "study-at-home" Logos 5.0 based BA in Theology!

Alan Macgregor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/138023#Comment_138023

Here was my suggestion two months ago re the Loeb Library:

And please not the complete set as a one-off purchase. That would bankrupt most of us, maybe even Logos, and take forever to produce.

May I suggest publishing them in single volumes in PrePub over a number of years. They could be published over, say, 20 years. They could be published alphabetically. There is something there for everyone, because the Greek/Latin and English texts are interleaved. Make them interlinear, if you like, though I prefer interleaved, as you can follow the text more easily that way. If Latin or Greek is not your thing then you can read only the English translation.

Imagine reading Loeb books on an iPad. What a joy! Smile

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/138029#Comment_138029

But do you want the old "Doctored" versions of Aristophones or do you want the new and more accurate translations? I understand the newer versions are... not polite.

Alan Macgregor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/138455#Comment_138455

But do you want the old "Doctored" versions of Aristophones or do you want the new and more accurate translations?

The Greek text has not changed. I haven't looked at the Loeb editions of Aristophenes for over 40 years, so I'm not aware of the new, "undoctored" versions, though even then stage productions of some plays, left little to the imagination. (As far as costumes and acting were concerned.)

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/138459#Comment_138459

The Greek text has not changed. I haven't looked at the Loeb editions of Aristophenes for over 40 years, so I'm not aware of the new, "undoctored" versions, though even then stage productions of some plays, left little to the imagination. (As far as costumes and acting were concerned.)

Correct. As I understand it the original Loeb library attempted a clean up of some of the more ... obvious language- but Aristophenes proved to be among the most difficult to "purify".

Having not been familiar with A* I found the example of his writing on the Loeb page and the linked article at the bottom to be instructive enough.

See the "The New Translations" section of the page Rick Linked to.

Bob Pritchett

We've tried to get rights to do the Loeb Library in the past, but have been unsuccessful.

We generally do things in complete sets, but I suppose if there was interest we could do just the public domain volumes of Loeb.

Should we only do PD volumes not already supplanted by a newer edition?

Should we pre-pub them one volume at a time, or in groups, either of Book 1/2/3, etc. (when Loeb split an author over multiple volumes) or even by some larger grouping? (Larger collections get a better discount.)

Any recommendations on priority?

Bob Pritchett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139348#Comment_139348

Sorted by date:

http://www.hup.harvard.edu/results-list.php?collection=1031&sortby=date

Alan Macgregor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139348#Comment_139348

Bob

Thanks for the response. Loeb in a complete set would be unaffordable for the vast majority of those would would really use it. Another thought would be the fact that, as Loeb covers such a vast area of academic disciplines, virtually no one except classicists would want to own it all. In the light of that consideration I think that the best solution would be to publish in bits – perhaps one author, say Quintilian's Institutiones Oratoriae, which is multiple volumes, as one release. Some authors, like Aristotle, have a larger repertoire than others, so they might be issued by subject groupings.

I think that your suggestion to try some of the PD volumes as PrePubs or Community Pricing which have not been supplanted is a good one. It allows you to get a feel for what might be quite an eclectic market. Might I suggest that some of the works on rhetoric (Aristotle, Cicero, Quintilian, etc.) would find a ready market among NT scholars and others, as they have a direct application to New Testament studies.

Thanks again.

Every blessing

Alan

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139366#Comment_139366

I would like to see it sold as a set and individually. I am presuming there would be a nice discount to buying the set. I often wonder why this isn't done more regularly, as some people really only want one or few resources from a set, and others want them all. I assume selling the set 1 by 1 will be much more expensive if someone wants most/all.

Damian McGrath

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139348#Comment_139348

Bob,

I would be interested in just about any of the Loeb volumes. I would definitely be interested in those in the Public Domain, including those which have been "supplanted". Sometimes, and in some places, the newer translations are not necessarily better.

I would begin with Plato! Appian's history (Dio Cassius and Herodotus too) would be great. Xenophon would be wonderful. BUT Plutarch, please give me Plutarch - unmatched in terms of vocabulary wrt the Pastoral Epistles......

Alan Macgregor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139390#Comment_139390

If it's a single item wish-list from the Public Domain, then make mine Aristotle's The "Art" of Rhetoric. Then …

Bobby Terhune

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139390#Comment_139390

Bob,

I too, would like to see all the Loeb public domain books offered as a set, including the replaced volumes. But I don't think community pricing is the best way to go, I would like to see a prepub price that reflects more closely how many people would likely sign up for it, so it can go into production in a reasonable amount of time.

Niko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139549#Comment_139549

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George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139348#Comment_139348

We've tried to get rights to do the Loeb Library in the past, but have been unsuccessful.

We generally do things in complete sets, but I suppose if there was interest we could do just the public domain volumes of Loeb.

Should we only do PD volumes not already supplanted by a newer edition?

Should we pre-pub them one volume at a time, or in groups, either of Book 1/2/3, etc. (when Loeb split an author over multiple volumes) or even by some larger grouping? (Larger collections get a better discount.)

Any recommendations on priority?

Publish them by author, not the complete set nor individual books.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/139390#Comment_139390

Bob,

ANY way you could get this to us would be great.

James W Bennett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/142202#Comment_142202

How about every volume in the PD on community pricing as an individual book. Then your users can let you know which ones they want.