The gray bars in resource panel vertical scroll bars??

Mark Smith · September 2009

Can someone tell me what all these gray bars are? Are they some sort of history of where I've been?

I know that search results produce orange bars, but what are these?

Morris Proctor · September 2009

Hi Mark,
Logos is calling this "read wear." History, Favorites, and Search Results will show in different colors.
Morris

Robert Pavich · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/11937#Comment_11937

Morris,

Ahh...so you finally surface...and with an answer in hand... [:O]

Rodney Prickett · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/11978#Comment_11978

so does clearing history delete these? is there a way to turn them off?

Mark Smith · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12000#Comment_12000

RodneyPrickett said:

so does clearing history delete these? is there a way to turn them off?

Morris, I thought as much. Thank you.

I would like to know how to erase these and would like to be able to turn them off!

Morris Proctor · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12090#Comment_12090

Hey Mark,
Currently we can't erase them.

Mark Smith · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12221#Comment_12221

Morris Proctor said:
Currently we can't erase them.

Figures. Detroit builds a car with the help of the big oil companies that you can turn on but can't turn off. Nice. Never have to worry about starting it again.

Hope someday they make a way to clear them or my 'wear marks' could fill up the scroll bar. Maybe they could at least disappear every time I re-open Logos.

Bob Pritchett · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12296#Comment_12296

I believe it only stores the last 20 of them; I just mentioned on another thread that you'll be able to turn them off in a future release; but for now we hope you'l give them a chance....

spitzerpl · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12336#Comment_12336

Bob Pritchett said:

I believe it only stores the last 20 of them; I just mentioned on another thread that you'll be able to turn them off in a future release; but for now we hope you'l give them a chance....

Actually I did find a way to turn them off. When I close my eyes, they seem to go away. Does this work for anyone else?

I like them and I'm more then willing to give them a chance.

J.R. Miller · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12336#Comment_12336

so far, I like the idea of the bars. it does take a little time to understand what it means, but I think it is a good addition of a visual cue.

Mark Smith · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12336#Comment_12336

Bob Pritchett said:

I believe it only stores the last 20 of them; I just mentioned on another thread that you'll be able to turn them off in a future release; but for now we hope you'l give them a chance....

Besides the clutter, some of us are very sensitive about seeing more and more gray. IYKWIM.

Chris Elford · September 2009

I like these bars. I really like the pink/red ones in a search. I talked about that in a different post, but I'll repeat it here, 4WIW. In a search you can preview the "hit" by hovering over the bar. You can also "jump" to the hits by clicking on the bar.

I was wondering what the other colors meant and now I know what the grey is: history.

I think this is a great navigational tool. Thanks.

Chris

Jon · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12551#Comment_12551

I only worked out these were today; they really are very useful! Especially being able to mouseover and see where you've been...

Richard Lyall · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/14061#Comment_14061

What are the blue bars?

Bob Pritchett · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/14063#Comment_14063

They represent positions in that book you've stored in "Favorites".

Tom Reynolds · September 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/12551#Comment_12551

Chris Elford said:

I like these bars. I really like the pink/red ones in a search. I talked about that in a different post, but I'll repeat it here, 4WIW. In a search you can preview the "hit" by hovering over the bar. You can also "jump" to the hits by clicking on the bar.

I agree they are great when you are searching and then can hover over each bar in the resource to get a preview. I'm not so hot on the grey ones though.

Mark Smith · October 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/14206#Comment_14206

TomReynolds said:
I agree they are great when you are searching and then can hover over each bar in the resource to get a preview. I'm not so hot on the grey ones though.

This might be true unless you get lots of hits. See the example below. Based on this search I get a pink scroll bar for a good part of the NT. Pretty useless. In addition you cannot click on or hover over a pink bar that lies under the scroll bar button, limiting the usefulness of this.

Dave Hooton · October 2009

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/19343#Comment_19343

I've given "wear bars" some thought and I think it could be more useful with some options. To illustrate the need consider this:-

I had just loaded L4 and opened ESV to a clump of pink bars. So I began to click through the four Search tabs and found a Bible search with results in the NT (the range was All Passages). I think I ran it a few days ago. The scroll button presented an obstacle to results between Philem and Rev. If I clicked above the button would jump to that spot and present a similar obstacle. And I couldn't guarantee to scroll from one result to the next because of the density of the pink bars. Thinking the search range had an effect on the distribution, I changed the range to New Testament and re-ran the search. The pink bars briefly disappeared but re-appeared in the same place! As another set of results was laid on top it became impossible to select a specific result as a slight movement would skip 3-4 results. When I searched Genesis I got a clump of pink at the top of the scroll bar. I also noticed a flurry of Sync activity with every search.

provide an option to show/not show "wear" bars
allow for search activity not to be saved for use in the next session of L4 (as I described upon opening the ESV).
use the scroll bar's extent to better distribute search results or allow a magnification of a clump of results for better selection
provide a tip for the significance of the grey bars (I've no idea where they came from!)