sales at logos dot com

Ebbe Andréasson
Ebbe Andréasson Member Posts: 720 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

When I get great offers from sales at logos dot com I get plenty of them. For the last 24 hours I get 10 mails with an offer for a limited time to buy "Commentary on the Psalms by E. W. Hengstenberg".

Did this happen to you as well getting a bunch of identical mails from the sales department?

Once I tried to contact them and tell them I want their mail but one offer is enough. But they didn't reply and I still got a lot of identical mails from them.

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  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    i only get one per offer.

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    Sounds like one of the en route internet servers stuttered...[;)] If so, chances are it'll clear up on its own... If it doesn't, contact Logos.

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


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  • Kent Hendricks
    Kent Hendricks Member, Logos Employee Posts: 221

    We're looking into this. Thanks for reporting.

  • Dan
    Dan Member Posts: 217 ✭✭

    I'd be happy to begin getting an offer once in a while at all!

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think maybe you've got to prove yourself a shopaholic on the Logos website first before you start getting the discount emails...[;)] I think it's probably meant to be a frequent buyer reward. For all the folks who can't afford to be frequently aquiring new books, they do have some regular annual sales for everyone that have great bargains available. March Madness and the 12 Days of Logos (at Christmas) have been very popular.

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

    March Madness and the 12 Days of Logos (at Christmas) have been very popular.

    speaking of march madness, why is the summer always discriminated against? shouldn't we have a July 4th sale?

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    speaking of march madness, why is the summer always discriminated against? shouldn't we have a July 4th sale?

    That would be too American-centric. Logos has an international customer base now, so that day would be meaningless to all outside the US (though as someone once joked: "Hey, do they have the 4th of July in Canada?" "Yes, of course, and the 5th and 6th.... Why would they skip that day?" [:)]). Even a "Hot summer sale!" would annoy the people Down Under who were experiencing winter. If it's going to be calendar based, I'd rather see them use the church calendar. Then again that might not sit too well with some of the low church folks who don't do Lent. But at least I think most Christian traditions celebrate (or acknowledge in some way) Pentecost, which this year was Sunday, May 23. So maybe a Pentecost-cutting sale would be good. And then the next sort of universal day in the church calendar is All Saints Day (day after Halloween in the secular calendar). So maybe an All Savings Day sale for that would be good.

  • Stephen Thorp
    Stephen Thorp Member Posts: 385 ✭✭

    I think maybe you've got to prove yourself a shopaholic on the Logos website first before you start getting the discount emails...Wink I think it's probably meant to be a frequent buyer reward.

    Thanks Rosie. It's not the shopping that a problem but finding the money - if my wife knew how much I'd spent over the years she'd say I was spending the kids inheritance!!!! (Not that I hide anything from my wife I hasten to add!)

    But seriously - a really good "Book of the month" or "monthly special" would help those of us who can only buy 'little but often', whereas a massive deal on a large collection might make perfect economic sense but still be 'out of this world' for some. Actually I do believe I'm something of a shopaholic, buying frequently, but (sadly) only within the bounds I can afford. 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    But seriously - a really good "Book of the month" or "monthly special" would help those of us who can only buy 'little but often' ... 


    I like that idea.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

     

    some of the low church folks who don't do Lent.

    Um.... [:^] That'd be me.  [;)] But I'm amused - not offended.


     
     But seriously - a really good "Book of the month" or "monthly special" would help those of us who can only buy 'little but often' ...

     
    I like that idea.
    I really like that idea!

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

     

    some of the low church folks who don't do Lent.

    Um.... [:^] That'd be me.  Wink But I'm amused - not offended.

    It wasn't intended as pejorative. I happen to go to a pretty low church (no bells & smells or robes or clergy even for that matter), and the one I grew up in was even lower. We didn't observe Lent or any aspect of the church calendar and had only extemporaneous prayers except for the Lord's Prayer. There's a freedom and spontaneity about low church worship which is wonderful. There's a place for high church liturgies and such, but I love it that we have that diversity of ways of worshiping God. I think both high and low are honoring to him. After all, as Ps 36:7 (NIV) says: "How priceless is your unfailing love! Both high and low among men find refuge in the shadow of your wings."[;)] (Note: see Exegetical Fallacies, to keep this on the topic of Logos)

  • JimTowler
    JimTowler Member Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭

    I'd love an email offering me HALOT cheap. I've got BDAG, but the Hebrew side is weak in my collection.

    I only seem to get automated emails, about things I don't want or can't afford, after buying something.

    One wonders if there would be an overall increase in profits, if all items got a blanket 20% discount for all time?

    Classic Lemonade-Stand Simulation!

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    It wasn't intended as pejorative.

    I know, the term "low church" just amused the giggles out of me, I had to say something.  I'm actually on a kind of a quest - using the Logos Lectionaries to learn about the church calendar etc. 

    Next year I'm contemplating taking our low church through a year of learning about the benefits or at least reasons for the various liturgical concepts by following to a certain extent the traditional church calendar.  I've not figured out how best to do that, as I want the scriptures and not the documents about the scriptures to remain the focus.  But I do hope to nail it. 

    Any suggestions?

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Mike Childs
    Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭

    Even a "Hot summer sale!" would annoy the people Down Under who were experiencing winter

    Then call it a "Hot Winter Sale" in July.  I promise not to be offended. [;)]

     


    "In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    I've not figured out how best to do that, as I want the scriptures and not the documents about the scriptures to remain the focus.

    Thomas

    I, too, minister in a non-liturgical church and I decided, after years of expository preaching – morning and evening – to follow the lectionary in the morning for a year.

    I started that at Advent last year. I am using the lectionary calendar of readings from the Common Lectionary and focus developing several small series from the lectionary readings. For instance, I did a short series on Revelation between Easter and Pentecost called "Resurrection Results: Because He Lives …"

    I look through the passages and decide whether I'm going to follow the Gospel, Epistle or Old Testament thread for a few weeks at a time.

    Then I plan readings, themes and titles for about three months ahead.

    At the start of the week I read prayerfully through the passage for the coming Sunday and sketch an outline of headings. Then I delve into Logos.

    I got one or two ideas at different times from a Logos resource –Lectionary Reflections http://www.logos.com/products/details/3030 which just focuses on the Scripture. Also just opening a Passage Guide on the week's passage can provide useful insights.

    The whole exercise has proved useful and insightful for me and the congregation so far, particularly as things like Trinity Sunday are topics that we wouldn't normally cover except as they crop up in the course of expounding a particular book of the Bible.

    Hope that helps.

    Every blessing

    Alan

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  • Rick
    Rick Member Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭

    DanGiese said:

    I'd be happy to begin getting an offer once in a while at all!

    Have you went to the newswire part of the site and submitted your email address? If I remember correctly, this is when I started getting special offers.

    http://www.logos.com/newswire

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    You can check what you're signed up to here: https://www.logos.com/user/MyMailingLists

    That said, I'm signed up to everything, and almost never get 'special offer' emails - apart from Prepub stuff. I don't have Hengstenberg, either.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    You can check what you're signed up to here: https://www.logos.com/user/MyMailingLists

    That said, I'm signed up to everything, and almost never get 'special offer' emails - apart from Prepub stuff. I don't have Hengstenberg, either.


    Ah thanks. I'd never known about that page. I wasn't signed up for the "Logos NewsWire" or "Freebies, Contests, Giveaways" feeds. That must be why I never heard about March Madness until I saw people start talking about it on the forums. I was only signed up for Regional Mailings, but I was getting the occasional (rare) email discount offer regardless.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    speaking of march madness, why is the summer always discriminated against? shouldn't we have a July 4th sale?

    That would be too American-centric. Logos has an international customer base now, so that day would be meaningless to all outside the US....


    Well, Philip, it looks like they heard you: http://blog.logos.com/archives/2010/07/happy_birthday_america.html

    And they paid attention to my sensitivity to the rest of the world, too: "For those outside of the United States, leave a comment and let us know which national holidays you would like to see Logos acknowledge."  [:)] Can we hear it for a belated Canada Day sale, eh? I would suggest Of Scribes and Sages: Early Jewish Interpretation and Transmission of Scripture, Vols. 1 and 2 (part of the Second Temple Period Collection), because it's edited by a professor from Canada.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Every blessing

    Alan,

    That was great!  Thanks for your feedback.  I'll have to do some more reading, but I appreciate your input.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Rosie Perera said:So maybe a Pentecost-cutting sale would be good.

    I like the "Freely you have received, freely give,'"  sale in Matthew 10:8

    That is where you get to download everything  for free.  [<:o)]

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭

    I would love a sale for Of Scribes and Sages: Early Jewish Interpretation and Transmission
    of Scripture, Vols. 1 and 2 !!

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I like the "Freely you have received, freely give,'"  sale in Matthew 10:8

    That is where you get to download everything  for free. 


    Yes, that would be nice, but unfortunately Logos hasn't freely received the licenses to all these titles, so they have to pass the cost on to us. Wouldn't it be nice if everything in this earthly economy were already on the Kingdom price scheme: "Come, buy...without money and without price." (Isa 55:1)

  • Mark Watson
    Mark Watson Member Posts: 125 ✭✭

    Next year I'm contemplating taking our low church through a year of learning about the benefits or at least reasons for the various liturgical concepts by following to a certain extent the traditional church calendar.  I've not figured out how best to do that, as I want the scriptures and not the documents about the scriptures to remain the focus.  But I do hope to nail it. 

    Any suggestions?

     

    Thomas,

    As a "middle-church" kind of denomination; United Methodist, we use the Revised Common Lectionary for our scriptures.  Logos has this and it is a great resource.  A pastor can preach from any of the texts listed for that day.  Whether it be the Old Testament reading, the Psalms, the Gospels, or the rest of the New Testament.  The RCL is based on a three year cycle.  Year A, B, C.  Currently we (the UMC) are on year C.  The scripture readings for a season may be completely in line with what you as a pastor would preach on say during Christmas, Advent, Pentecost, or Lent.  However, by looking at all four of the readings, you may find something that will make a great series that is not so easily tied to the Christian Calendar.

    Readings for tomorrow are:

    Old Testament      2 Kings 5:1–14

    Psalm                    Psalm 30 (UMH 762)

    New Testament     Galatians 6:7–16 (1–6)

    Gospel                   Luke 10:1–11, 16–2


    I find that an interesting study is to teach the Christian Calendar and all of its seasons as a short term Bible study referencing the major texts from the Christian Calendar.  For example, "What is Lent?"  Telling not only the history and the tradition of practicing, but the different texts from the readings and how they are related to lent.


    I know some pastors who are much more in tune with the lectionary than I am and who could give you some pointers on how to teach about the Christian Calendar.  Just let me know.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,120

    Next year I'm contemplating taking our low church through a year of learning about the benefits or at least reasons for the various liturgical concepts by following to a certain extent the traditional church calendar.  I've not figured out how best to do that, as I want the scriptures and not the documents about the scriptures to remain the focus. 

    Luck for you, the Scriptures form the backbone of the liturgical year. My advice, as usual might seem a bit odd, but I am serious.

    1. A place to start in understanding the liturgical year is the iconostasis of an Orthodox church or the frescos of an old southern Italian church - in both cases the believer is given images depicting the major events in the life of Jesus Christ so that even a young child can give the major events in order. I had a friend who was teaching a short introduction to iconography as a summer course at GTU who had great fun watching some of the Protestant pastors trying to put the events in order. His discovery made me appreciate the framework that art and the liturgical year provide - a framework that you can then use to hang everything else on.

    2. Second, there are two events that are the underpinning of the whole liturgical year - the Nativity/Incarnation and the Crucifixion/Resurrection. Because these are so crucial, the weeks leading up to them and the weeks following them have readings that prepare for them or follow their consequences.

    3. Finally, the rest of the time is essentially reading through a Gospel semi-continuously i.e. following the life of Christ in the order it occurs in the Gospel (Years A, B, C refer to Matthew, Mark, Luke respectively). In the Old Testament readings there are two fundamental paths - the Lutheran tradition which emphasizes the narratives of the Old Testament and the Catholic that chooses the OT reading as a complement to the Gospel. The epistle is a semi-continuous reading independent of the OT and Gospel Readings. The Psalm is a response to either the first reading or the Gospel.

    So essentially the liturgical year takes you through the life of Christ every year.

    For the Psalms, I'd recommend: William L. Holladay's The Psalms Through Three Thousand Years: Prayerbook of
    a Cloud of Witnesses

    For the basic concepts of liturgical prayer: Two
    Ways of Praying by Paul
    F. Bradshaw

    For the liturgical year in general: The
    Liturgical Year: The Spiraling Adventure of the Spiritual Life - The
    Ancient Practices Series by Joan
    Chittister and Phyllis Tickle

    There's another title on how the Scriptures create the liturgical year, that it totally escaping me at the moment.

    I hope that we can get more of this type of material in Logos, but I'm taking the one step at a time approach - let's first get a broader base of lectionaries.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've enjoyed Celebrating the Christian Year by Martha Zimmerman (Bethany House). It's mostly focused on celebrating the Christian holidays throughout the year with your family, but it also explains the meaning and history behind the various seasons of the Christian year.

    Another book I've dipped into which looks good is Seasons of Prayer; Rediscovering Classic Prayers through the Christian Calendar, by Donna Fletcher Crow (Beacon Hill Press). "Donna and her husband are cofounders of Epworth-in-the-Foothills, a worship and study center that is part of the Wesleyan worship renewal movement."

    There are also circular liturgical calendar ("liturgical wheel") wall charts that are pretty cool. Here's one place where you can order them online, or here's a downloadable version.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Thanks again everyone, great information.  [y]

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    Thomas Black:  Next year I'm contemplating taking our low church through a year of learning about the benefits or at least reasons for the various liturgical concepts by following to a certain extent the traditional church calendar. I've not figured out how best to do that, as I want the scriptures and not the documents about the scriptures to remain the focus. But I do hope to nail it.

    Try to see if you get any inspiration from any of the lectionaries.  Even the Catholic Church (which I attend, to the horror of some low church brethren who at one stage disowned me....) has 4 Bible readings every week.  OT, Psalm, Epistle and Gospel.  Sometimes the OT reading may be from the OT Apocrypha, but only a few times a year.  I use the lectionary readings as the basis of my Bible study, combined with the stories we use in the women's and children's groups.  Incidentally RCL is not Roman Catholic Lectionary, but Revised Common Lectionary, as I discovered recently!  But there are Lutheran and Methodist lectionaries.  I got all my lectionaries free.

  • Mike Aubrey
    Mike Aubrey Member, Logos Employee Posts: 223

    Hey, do they have the 4th of July in Canada?" "Yes, of course, and the 5th and 6th.... Why would they skip that day?

    More importantly, we have the 1st of July.

  • Dan Sheppard
    Dan Sheppard Member Posts: 377 ✭✭

    I, too, minister in a non-liturgical church and I decided, after years of expository preaching – morning and evening – to follow the lectionary in the morning for a year.

     

    In responding not to this particular point, but in general, I wanted to clarify on liturgical worship.  Or for those not familiar...

    The liturgy is simply comprised of verses of the Bible.  There are parts from OT, NT, Psalm and Gospel.  Some recited, some to music.

    One of the comforting things for people, is that there are things to say from memory, when times are rough, or when you just want to have something to include at prayer time. 

    A lot of times, I could have a given thought, but seem to get my thought incomplete.  I can rely upon liturgical passages, to help.

    http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/6494

    http://www.logos.com/products/details/2460

    http://www.logos.com/products/details/1663

     

     

     

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Next year I'm contemplating taking our low church through a year of learning about the benefits or at least reasons for the various liturgical concepts by following to a certain extent the traditional church calendar.  I've not figured out how best to do that, as I want the scriptures and not the documents about the scriptures to remain the focus.  But I do hope to nail it. 

    Any suggestions?


    Here's another suggestion:

    Robert Webber's Ancient-Future Time: Forming Spirituality through the Christian Year

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Rosie, in a long delayed purchase I just obtained this one as part of Webbers four book set.  (Robert Webber Ancient-Future Collection (4 Vols.) [DOWNLOAD] )

    [sn]

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    Hey, do they have the 4th of July in Canada?" "Yes, of course, and the 5th and 6th.... Why would they skip that day?

    More importantly, we have the 1st of July.

    What about a "Christmas in July" sale?

     

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭

    What is being described here never happens to me, but every time they put something on Facebook I get it twice.

    Wish I could fix that.

    Jerry

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Thanks Rosie, in a long delayed purchase I just obtained this one as part of Webbers four book set.  (Robert Webber Ancient-Future Collection (4 Vols.) [DOWNLOAD] )

    Snail

    I wouldn't mark it with a snail. I admire your self-control. [:)]

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭


    Snail


    I wouldn't mark it with a snail. I admire your self-control. Smile

    But.... it was an accident.  LOL

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    What is being described here never happens to me, but every time they put something on Facebook I get it twice.

    Wish I could fix that.

    Jerry

    Logos has both a Person page and a Business page on Facebook, and they post the same things to both.  You are probably both a friend of the person and a fan of the business.

    If you don't want to see the postings twice, you can hide the postings from one.  Click the "X" that pops up when you mouse over the entry:

    image

     

    The click on the Hide button:

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  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭

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