Problem with Hebrew Grammatical Relationships

Following the instructions in the video, I went to Psalm 34:1 (ESV and NASB), right-clicked on "bless", chose Lemma on the right and then Bible Word Study on the left. I went to the Grammatical Relationships section and did not find an entry for the target word (in the Hebrew text the word is in verse 2).

I did the same thing with the word "magnify" in verse 3 and had the same results - no entry in Grammatical Relationships.

Am I doing something wrong? Am I looking for something not supported by this function? Is there a problem with the resource tags or the Grammatical Relationships function?

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Graham Criddle

I note that "boast" in verse 2 and "heard" in verse 6 both give the expected results.

In both of these cases there is an actual subject in the text, whereas in the case of "bless" and "magnify" there is not.

Whether this is at all relevant is a totally different matter!

Graham

Tim Hensler

I should point out that the setting I used for Grammatical Relationships when I received no results was "By Related Word." When I switch the setting to "verses" my target word "bless" shows up under the heading "Predicator 246 Results" with the verse reference Psalm 34:1. I'm expecting the two settings would provide the same results, changing only the format of the report.

I also noticed when the report is in the "verses" setting, the verses are not in strict Bible reference order, making me wonder if there are subdivisions not labeled in the report, or the report is not sorting properly.

Jon

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/143310#Comment_143310

I'm having no problems with the Grammatical Relationship section regardless of which setting it is on; could it be an indexing problem?

The verse order is in the order of the Hebrew bibles rather than English bible order since all this data comes from AFAT (I think)

Tim Hensler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144301#Comment_144301

Thank you Jon - I don't work in the Hebrew Bible very often and forgot that book order is different than in English Bibles.

Per chance did you try Psalm 34:1 (ESV and NASB), right-clicked on "bless", choose Lemma on the right, Bible Word Study on the left and then check the Grammatical Relationships set to "By Related Word"? That's where I can't find my target word. My system went through a significant index after downloading this week's resource download and I still have the same problem.

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144694#Comment_144694

I updated to 4.0d and it indexed right afterwards. Then the next day received a 2gig download which caused indexing again. (just to let you know my machines state)

seems to work on my machine if i followed your directions.

Right click on bless, then select lemma and Bible word study.

Edit: could not find it under any of the sentence parts (e.g. subject, object)

Tim Hensler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144712#Comment_144712

Thank you Graham, Jon and Steve. I put this out on the PC Beta forum to see what we learn there: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/19178.aspx.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144768#Comment_144768

Do you find it in verse mode?

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144798#Comment_144798

Very interesting! i didn't know that was there. Thanks

Tim Hensler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144798#Comment_144798

Do you find it in verse mode?

Yes, I do see it in verse mode, but not in "By Related Word" mode. Made me wonder if there is a bug, that's why I posted it to the PC Beta forum to at http://community.logos.com/forums/t/19178.aspx. I had the problem in 4.0d Beta-4 and RC-1. I'll check it again when 4.0e is released for beta.

Steven Luethy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/144972#Comment_144972

Tim, is your problem in the meantime solved?

How do I find the origin verse (for example Psalm 34.1) simply and fast in
the search results of the grammatical relationships? Is there an option to indicate the origin
verse equal with the appropriate category?