How much would you pay?
Someone pointed out to me that while all the Logos software is technically free, the PC and MAC are sold bundled with the content where as the L4 app is a johnny come lately and doesn't have a true income base. I realize that some of us have upgraded to L4 because of the lure of the app, but I am not sure that is enough. So, the question is how much would you pay for the iPhone/iPad app and what features would you feel are "must haves" in order for you to shell out your hard earned cash.
I will start:
Cost: I would be willing to pay between 20 - 50 dollars depending on the functionality present.
Features:
Online (Cloud):
1. Greater searching functionality across the entire library
2. Syncing of Notes and Highlighting with my L4 instance
3. Split view
Offline:
1. Greater stability (Books downloaded are consistently available in the off line mode).
2. Searching functionality in Bibles.
3. storing notes and highlighting for sync with the cloud when back online.
4. Split view
As it sits right now, if Logos could deliver these features within a relatively short period of time (6 -8 months, I would shell out 50.00 today.
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So, the question is how much would you pay for the iPhone/iPad app and what features would you feel are "must haves" in order for you to shell out your hard earned cash.
My initial answer is nothing. That is the model for iPxx bible software right now. You pay for the content and not the actual reader app. I don't think you can go against that model either. I was traditionally on the fence with Bible software until a bit over a year ago with Logos announced their first Mac offering. Up until then I had never spent more than $100 on a Bible software package but have now spent many times more than that as I see the fruit of its capabilities. I say all that to say that the iPxx software is the same. I will likely buy far more eBook type offerings if Logos rounds out their features here. I am real close to buying parts of my library again on another platform though due to the inadequacies of the current mobile app. I would much, much rather spend that at Logos though as they are my platform of choice. Right now Bob needs to show us he takes the iPxx platform seriously. I watched him wade in slowly on the Mac side and lately that has just exploded. I am holding off buying elsewhere in hope the same thing happens here. The iPad itself is a game changer IMO and I really think the number of devices sold should be sending a strong message to Logos.
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Terry, I second the items you mentioned. I would also be willing to pay $50.
In addition to the items you mentioned I would like my Reading Plans to be available offline and the app should remember where I stopped in a Reading Plan and automatically start there when I select that Reading Plan. Ideally, the Bible word study information would also be available offline. If I'm paying for the app, I would also like to see commitment from Logos to push out tweaks to the app much more frequently than they have. Many of the iPad apps I use have come out with multiple updates in response to user feedback leaving Logos trailing far behind in my opinion in responding to user feedback (all to change I hope with the next belated Logos app release).
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Right now Bob needs to show us he takes the iPxx platform seriously.
I have an iPhone strapped to me every waking hour, and carry an iPad around. We're sold.
Priority one (underway) is porting the complete desktop "display engine" to the iOS platform, which will then enable these other improvements to be started. It's going to take time, because we have some re-architecture to do, but it is a priority and we are working on it.
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I have an iPhone strapped to me every waking hour, and carry an iPad around. We're sold.
Priority one (underway) is porting the complete desktop "display engine" to the iOS platform, which will then enable these other improvements to be started. It's going to take time, because we have some re-architecture to do, but it is a priority and we are working on
Awesome Bob, thank you for throwing this information out for us. I will just sit tight and wait for this to happen rather than get antsy and buy a competing app. I love my Mac Alphas but I would be OK if you took a couple of those devs and added them to the iPxx team. I personally am finding the iPad itself to be a transforming device. The usability in church is phenomenal. I love technology (I better as it is my vocation as well) but have been a little hesitant to pop out a tablet or laptop during regular church services. With the iPad I am now leaving my paper Bible at home and using Logos (and another app I have owned for a while) exclusively. The ability to get to Greek text while our pastor is preaching is fantastic. The thought of having tools like the exegetical guide available in this form factor has me very excited. I really appreciate the direction you are going and am doing my best to show it by being loyal with my purchases.
Blessings.
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Right now Bob needs to show us he takes the iPxx platform seriously.
I have an iPhone strapped to me every waking hour, and carry an iPad around. We're sold.
Priority one (underway) is porting the complete desktop "display engine" to the iOS platform, which will then enable these other improvements to be started. It's going to take time, because we have some re-architecture to do, but it is a priority and we are working on it.
Now that's a post I really am pleased to read. Strange as it may be, I actually bought into the Logos package because of the iPhone app, though was a little disappointed with the lack of features compared with the desktop software (which I am very happy with, though again, as a Mac user, I'm champing at the bit for its development (but have stopped using the Windows version under Parallels since the last two alphas). Here's looking forward to the continued development of Logos iPhone/pad/mac. Thanks Bob
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As is with the addition of notes and highlighting which sync to logos 4 desktop, I'd pay $4.99
If I could have access to ALL of my library on my iPad logos app (just as is with the addition of notes and highlighting) I'd pay $49.99
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To have a fully functioning offline app, I'd pay a very decent amount ($200 at least). Fully functioning means native support for .logos4 files rather than the slow XML files currently used, full access to my whole library, local offline searching, support for collections, ability to open more than one resource, etc.
That said, for Logos to ask me to pay would go against their business model which I admire so much. So I shall spend my money on extra resources and be content to wait my turn.
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That said, for Logos to ask me to pay would go against their business model which I admire so much. So I shall spend my money on extra resources and be content to wait my turn.
Mark, I seem to remember shelling out 70.00 for the Mac engine, and it was explained to me that I had to do this because of the extra development costs that they incurred in it's development. So, their business model does allow for the possibility.
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I have an iPhone strapped to me every waking hour, and carry an iPad around
Have you figured out how to turn either of them on, yet? (Here's Dan, ducking and running)
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Currently the interface on the desktop version STILL isn’t there for me with respect to a 'reading' mode.
I still view Logos as a research and study tool, not leisure reading platform. That said, I have an iPhone, iPad, iPad touch, iPod (Nano/Shuffl) soon I'll have iPants. If this platform can be leveraged to let me take my 'books' with me and easily read through a book, not scroll through a file (I've had this discussion before guys, http://community.logos.com/forums/p/138/863.aspx#863 ), I'm onboard. But is it worth more to me than my initial Logos investment, no. Possibly $10.00 for the convenience. But using it beyond the functionally of a reader is not likely for me.
Thanks Logos for your hard work and creativity! I appreciate your interest in driving the product(s) continually forward and your diligent work at opening up to your user base. I KNOW that’s scary because people are... well fallen.
Keep the development going for the Kingdom!
John Weathersby
Harrisburg, PA.
www.transcendchurch.org
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I would probably pay anything from 5 to 50 for a "fully functioning" app. As Mark said, maybe even up to 200, but I would want to have access to my complete library.
That said, I am sure to brag on the app more, the cheaper or freer that it is--and I still hope for a full library access, highlighting, note taking, etc.
I don't expect I will ever pay anything for the app--and might be a bit disappointed if I had to, because of my expectation of receiving "free engines" with Logos.
Thanks for the app, as it is! I have hijacked my wife's iPod touch numerous times to read. Maybe some day I will get an iPad. Just dreamin'.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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I have an iPhone strapped to me every waking hour, and carry an iPad around
Have you figured out how to turn either of them on, yet?
i thought that was pretty funny, Dan. I could picture Bob "strapped and carrying," but not having a clue what to do with them. [:P]
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Right now Bob needs to show us he takes the iPxx platform seriously.
I have an iPhone strapped to me every waking hour, and carry an iPad around. We're sold.
Priority one (underway) is porting the complete desktop "display engine" to the iOS platform, which will then enable these other improvements to be started. It's going to take time, because we have some re-architecture to do, but it is a priority and we are working on it.
That is great news indeed! Having recently taken the iPad plunge after using the iPhone app since launch, knowing logos is taking the platform seriously is very reassuring. Thank you.
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Priority one (underway) is porting the complete desktop "display engine" to the iOS platform, which will then enable these other improvements to be started. It's going to take time, because we have some re-architecture to do, but it is a priority and we are working on it.
Bob, I really appreciate Logos on the iPad. A few years ago I r ead 4 to 5 books per week, but at 68 my eyes have grown dim. On the iPad I can read my Logos books far better than on a printed copy. I do have two concerns:
First, hopefully we will have an update in the near future, and not have to wait on the version which is the equivalent to 4.0d.
Secondly, scrolling through 3,600 books is a problem, and I lose my place when downloading books. In the contacts list there is an alphabetical list on the right. It would help if I knew where to start accessing books.
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