OH No! From Bob Pritchett on Twitter: Satellite office robbed again! Bellevue a crime center, or thi
This is horrible news....Logos has been broken into again.... 
Robert Pavich
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That stinks!
Of course at this point, I'm thinking a subscription to a security alarm system company would be more than a good idea.
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Thomas Black said:
I'm thinking a subscription to a security alarm system company
I'm feeling naughty - if I drive up to Bellingham do you think I can get a used Mac cheap?
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Posting pics of the sort of equipment they had might not have been the best move. That aside, sorry to hear this has happened again.
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One thing is for sure - they need to do something a little extra for security.
You wouldn't think that though, because Bellingham isn't known for it's crime rate.
We can only hope that the thieves are now actually using Logos 4.
Who knows, maybe exposure to Gods Word will do wonders for them [:)].
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Thomas Black said:
I suppose that depends on whether or not you feel comfortable on that side of town. :-)
Now that's funny...it's not the stolen merchandise that's the sin..it's the fact that it's a mac... [:O]
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That part of town has always been a bit liberal with its interpretations...
!steal Roberts dog
!sendto Belingham Officesolution???
sorry to hear about this crimespree
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Robert Pavich said:
stolen merchandise
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I take it you haven't seen the news reports. The MLS has released a statement taking full responsibility. (Mac Liberation Society).
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Are you sure guys that is not an attempt to slower down the development of MAC version? Looks kind of suspicious to me to rob the same office twice in a very short time. Or the security is not sufficient?
Bohuslav
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
Are you sure guys that is not an attempt to slower down the development of MAC version? Looks kind of suspicious to me to rob the same office twice in a very short time. Or the security is not sufficient?
I think that it is Robert taking matters into his own hands after seeing the Mac folks get two alphas in two days and yet no 4.0e beta in sight:
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/19339.aspx
EDIT: Notice that he's the one that started this thread too...convenient cover [:P]
EDIT 2: In seriousness though, it is sad to hear that this has happened again.
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Were any more details posted other than the headline above? If so, could someone post the entire article? Thanks!
Blessings,
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Well, it is a Good thing Bob is a big Cloud fan, all he has to do is hook them up and re-sync [6]
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Holy smoke you guys are funny!
it's a sad thing but i needed the laugh.
Now where is that Beta E for Windows.?
Floyd,
there was no story...just that blurb from Bob Pritchett on twitter...one line.
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Thank God for this assurance that you're doing something the devil reacts allergically against! And step up security. And lets pray for those thieves - as well as their victims....
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Hey all -
I appreciate a joke as much as anyone else, maybe a little too much sometimes. Keep in mind that Logos has been robbed. Even thought here is insurance and all of that, this is still distressing and hurtful to the employees and families. It also hurts productivity for the business.
I am not really slamming anyone for making jokes, but remember also to pray for our Logos friends, and pray for those who committed the crime. They need Jesus just like I do.
Jerry
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Stein Dahl said:
Bellingham isn't known for it's crime rate.
Just a minor correction. The theft was in their Bellevue mac dev office, not in Bellingham. (Bellevue is about 90 miles south of Bellingham.)
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Robert Pavich said:
there was no story...just that blurb from Bob Pritchett on twitter...one line.
Thanks, Robert
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Oh I didn't know that. But I live in Washington State (Gig Harbor to be exact) so I'm somewhat familiar with the area - and even Bellevue isn't really known to be a high crime area - as are certain parts of Tacoma and Seattle. In fact Bellevue is known to be a rather upscale area.Richard DeRuiter said:Stein Dahl said:Bellingham isn't known for it's crime rate.
Just a minor correction. The theft was in their Bellevue mac dev office, not in Bellingham. (Bellevue is about 90 miles south of Bellingham.)
So it's still a little surprising to hear that this has happened again. It's almost as if Logos is being deliberately targeted. Hence my comment that they need to do a little something extra for security.
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Last time my office was broken into exactly the same thing happened. The thieves waited until we'd replaced everything on the insurance, and then came back. Brand new equipment for them, and they already knew their way around the building.
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Robert Pavich said:Thomas Black said:
I suppose that depends on whether or not you feel comfortable on that side of town. :-)
Now that's funny...it's not the stolen merchandise that's the sin..it's the fact that it's a mac...
Robert
Just putting two and two together and getting five!
- You would like a Mac.
- You deplore the fact the Logos 4 Mac development team has come out with yet more updates
- Logos Bellevue offices hit again and iMacs stolen
- In one event Macs become available v--ery cheaply and Mac development team are slowed down again.
- Mmm. Interesting!
Think through above in the light of John 3:19 and draw your own conclusions.
I rest my case. [;)]
Every blessing
Alan
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Mark Barnes said:
Last time my office was broken into exactly the same thing happened. The thieves waited until we'd replaced everything on the insurance, and then came back. Brand new equipment for them, and they already knew their way around the building.
This is a very common strategy of thieves; they do it on house breakins, too. Immediately after a theft is the second best time to get an alarm system. Before you've ever been broken into is an even better time. I'm sure they had an alarm system, though. The pros don't care if an alarm is going off. They are so fast at what they do, they can steal all the machines and get out of there before anyone in the neighborhood even gets suspicious about that darned alarm going off. Usually it's a false alarm (with cars and such), so I wonder how often alarms really do stop thieves. They need something more powerful than an alarm system. CCTV + LoJack for Mac + a vicious guard dog in the building.
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Alan,
Well done....I'd suspect myself also!
Also, to the other poster..I'm not making light of their situation, it's a shame and I feel for them.
Robert Pavich
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Rosie Perera said:
They need something more powerful than an alarm system. CCTV + LoJack for Mac + a vicious guard dog in the building.
What if the developers worked 7x24? [:)]
OK - really sad news about the breakin. The Mac store might be happy again, Monday morning, but building security is clearly not up to whatever is needed.
Depending on the rent/lease details, try somewhere new?
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I'll vouch for the effectiveness of having viscous dogs. My Parents live in the countryside not too far west of Tacoma, WA, out on the Olympic Peninsula, and all of their closest neighbors have been broken into and burglarized, but not my parents house - and do you know why?Rosie Perera said:vicious guard dog in the building.
Because they have 3 huge dogs that roam that property and if anyone comes on the property they are swiftly introduced - and not in the friendliest of terms.
Now, in all actuality these dogs wouldn't hurt a flea - but they sure do sound like they would. Their house was even safe when they went away for a month to visit relatives in Norway.
My parents have lived there for well over 10 years and they've had no problems at all - due to a good set of dogs.
So I'd vouch for that. I know it works.
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"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Stein Dahl said:
Their house was even safe when they went away for a month to visit relatives in Norway.
How many postmen, courier drivers and paper-boys did the dogs need to eat to last a month without food?
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How about computer Jo-Jack and finally nab these people?
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It was the Bellevue satellite office again, (which is actually space we're sub-leasing from another company).
At our Bellingham offices we're quite secure, and have video surveillance as well. But since we weren't the tenant at the Bellevue office, and were only there temporarily to catch up the Mac product, we didn't have the same protections in place there.
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Well, actually I went up to their house every couple of days to make sure they had food and that they were okay. Plus the neighbor lady kept an eye on them too.JimT said:Stein Dahl said:Their house was even safe when they went away for a month to visit relatives in Norway.
How many postmen, courier drivers and paper-boys did the dogs need to eat to last a month without food?
So I'm happy to report that no postmen, courier drivers or paper-boys lost their lives or were eaten during that time.
But their house wasn't robbed either.
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Mark Barnes said:
Last time my office was broken into exactly the same thing happened. The thieves waited until we'd replaced everything on the insurance, and then came back. Brand new equipment for them, and they already knew their way around the building.
Yeah my house was broken into 7 times in one summer, until I chased a guy out with a 300 mag, got dogs (ain't he sweet), a burglar alarm etc... My wife still wakes up screaming in the middle of the night occasionally. Seriously wrong.
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Floyd Johnson said:
Your too soft, MJ.
Well, our black labrador welcomes anybody as his best friend, so the MJ's cat might be a good option [:)]
Bohuslav
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:Floyd Johnson said:
Your too soft, MJ.
Well, our black labrador welcomes anybody as his best friend, so the MJ's cat might be a good option
We used to joke that our black labrador would lead any burglar right to the silver chest, she was so friendly.
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Robert Pavich said:
Now where is that Beta E for Windows.?
It has been delayed as ALL programmers have now been shifted to the Mac Dev Team to make up for lost time. [:D]
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Jack Caviness said:
It has been delayed as ALL programmers have now been shifted to the Mac Dev Team to make up for lost time.
I can't win for losing! [:(]
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NEWS FLASH: Logos burglar captured by MJ's guard cat:
(What was that you were saying, Floyd? Something about MJ is "too soft?")
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In my experience, the Mac guard cat would be more like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45715717@N00/4219228267/
Logos, sorry to hear that criminals struck again--that really makes one feel violated. Best wishes on ending these troubles.
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MJ. Smith said:
I'm feeling naughty - if I drive up to Bellingham do you think I can get a used Mac cheap?
Were these the Macs that replaced the first heist inventory? That would make them barely used Macs. A frequent ploy of burglars is to return to a former crime victim and steal the new items the insurance company just purchased as replacements.
One morning an Associate Pastor at my church observed a man walking down the street with a huge sound mixing board. It did not occur to him until evening service that the mixer was from our church sanctuary. "Will a man rob God?" Malachi 3:8a Apparently so.
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Matthew C Jones said:
I remember when churches were left unlocked, at least in the farmbelt of southern IN / IL. Then again, as a pastor of mine was fond of saying, "never be surprised when the world acts like the world."
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JimT said:
What if the developers worked 7x24?
That's really funny!
JimT said:The Mac store might be happy again, Monday morning
I understand Mac people are avid recyclers. You aren't suggesting the Mac Store is selling Logos the same computers ......Naw!
JimT said:Depending on the rent/lease details, try somewhere new?
Is this the historical building Logos just moved into?
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Matthew C Jones said:
Is this the historical building Logos just moved into?
Wrong city/
JimT said:What if the developers worked 7x24?
Do you mean they aren't ... what kind of developers are they?
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Sheesh! Is Frank Pieretti writing a new book set in Bellingham??
I pray Bob doesn't get discouraged!
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When
they steal from Logos, they steal from us - the Logos customers - as well.
Obviously, money that could have gone in to providing more resources and
service to the customer must go to making up for the loss to thieves.We
all have an interest in the success of Logos. May the wrath of God fall
upon these thieves! Well, maybe just a little wrath and then some life
changing grace.
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Michael Childs said:
money that could have gone in to providing more resources and
service to the customer must go to making up for the loss to thieves.I believe this loss is covered by insurance as the last theft was. Still, Logos must deal with the disruption.
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Jack Caviness said:
I believe this loss is covered by insurance as the last theft was.
I'm sure it was covered, but wouldn't their insurance rates go up after two thefts in such close proximity? Just like car insurance rates go up after an accident. If the insurance company thinks Logos is a high risk because they don't have enough security at that satellite site, it won't want to be put on the spot to cover yet another potential theft down the road without some compensation.
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Rosie Perera said:
I'm sure it was covered, but wouldn't their insurance rates go up after two thefts in such close proximity? Just like car insurance rates go up after an accident. If the insurance company thinks Logos is a high risk because they don't have enough security at that satellite site, it won't want to be put on the spot to cover yet another potential theft down the road without some compensation.
I have been in the insurance business for 41 years, and see more than high rates are at stake.
First, I am going to assume Logos commerical policy has been with the same company for many years, and that Bob carries considerable insurance with the company. Even so there is a real danger the policies are going to be cancelled. Two theft claims in a short period are considered a curse by underwriters. Logos is definately going to see a rate increase. They need our prayers.'
Secondly, Logos should go proactive immediately by purchasing a good alarm system. Additionally, I would recommend increasing the policy deductible considerably, and in 4 or 5 years lower it if there have not been any claims. I would also contact the insurance underwriter to see if they have any additional suggestions.
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Rosie Perera said:
I'm sure it was covered, but wouldn't their insurance rates go up after two thefts in such close proximity?
Gary Butler said:I have been in the insurance business for 41 years, and see more than high rates are at stake.
In today's blog
[quote]Twice-bitten by the big city, we're going to hunker down here in low-crime Bellingham (where we're in our own more secure and video-surveilled space) and work hard to keep our Mac product moving ahead.
and in the comments (by Bob)
[quote]The robberies were in an unusual space; we were in another company's offices for a temporary time, where we don't have control over the security, and we were so close to the end of our time there that we decided to pull out rather than re-equip that location. So another robbery can't happen there -- we're gone. (And all the other company has are the PC's not worth stealing! :-) )
As alluded to in the post, our main offices are 80 miles away, more secure, alarmed, and under complete Internet-connected video surveillance. So if the same thieves (or different ones!) want to come hit us "back at the fort," we almost welcome it. Between our silent alarm, downtown location near the police station, and high-def video coverage, it would be their last attempt. (Did I mention the vicious dogs?)Hopefully, that will also assist with the insurance rate/cancellation problem.
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That might help keep the insurance pit bulls at bay, but a top notch alarm system should still be a top priority.
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Gary Butner said:
That might help keep the insurance pit bulls at bay, but a top notch alarm system should still be a top priority.
I edited my original post to include a comment by Bob Pritchett in the comments section of the blog. They have moved to a more secure location where Logos has control over security arrangements.
PS I really like the comment about the relative value of the computers in the building. [8-|]
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