Searching for questions of Christ?
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A very good thought, but you will have to weed through all the questions from other people in the gospels.
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yes, of course.
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Hmm... Used the words of christ to start out with, then tried different searches. nothing worked very well.
I ended up copying the list and pasting it into word.
I used Word to search for "?" and then manually deleted every sentence that was a statement...
Then I found out that half of the entries were entries that people asked Jesus as well, not just the words of Jesus. Some verses contain statments from others within the samve verse as something that Christ said...
Then I also found that some of these items are very long, and they were cut off. The copy and paste of the information just left some things like this
Sermon on the mount words of Christ - Blessed are the etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ...
The ... was the end of it, but some things like the sermon on the mount went on for ever, but the full text was not shown...
1 hour of work - and I finally felt it was too complicated to finish...
So instead, I saved a list, but all that gave me was the references.
I finally gave up.
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Roy Zuck book Teaching as Jesus Taught pg. 258 (Baker publishers) has a table listing all the questions Jesus asked. In this table he has 225 questions, the individual or groups addressed, the kind of question (15 categories) and the immediate response of the one or ones questioned. This is not available in logos. In pg. 291 he has a table of 103 questions addressed to Jesus and His responses.
In another book by Zuck Teaching as Paul taught pg. 184 he lists 250 questions Paul asked and the type of question asked.
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I think this OPenText query gives all questions in the Bible, but I could not figure out how to direct it just to Words of Christ, as that does not seem to be in their syntax. This returns 158 results, not too bad to scroll through:
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Hi Dominick
This looked really interesting and so I replicated your search.
Looking at some of the results I noted that it didn't find the questions Jesus asked in Matthew 5:46
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
Looking at the clausal outlines it seems to be using a different construct as below (but I don't know enough Greek to understand exactly what is happening here).
The same is also true for the questions in Matthew 5:47 but I haven't looked any further
Graham
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Not a LOGOS resource, but it might be of help:
So twenty years ago Bishop John Marshall, Bishop of Burlington VT. and later Springfield Mass compiled a book: But Who Do You Say That I Am? In the book he collected and listed all the questions Jesus asked in the Gospels. And he encourages us to answer the question. He also listed questions asked by others in another section of the book. Bishop Marshall in listing the question gives extra verses for context and adds brief commentaries. However, I would like to list just the raw questions. I will give the verse reference so you can look it up. But I encourage you to print this list and take it to prayer. Read it slowly, perhaps over days or weeks. I have attached a PDF version of the List here: 100 Questions that Jesus asked and YOU must answer. Ponder each question. Answer each question prayerfully and reflectively. This is not the complete list of questions but it is surely food for thought. Now, answer the questions:
You can find the quote and the list of questions here:
http://blog.adw.org/2010/03/answer-the-question-one-hundred-questions-that-jesus-asked/
You also find a link to the original book (if the above link does not work as copied). The original book looks like it might be an interesting addition to LOGOS - if it is still available.
Add these to those posted by Rosie in her original post:
Rosie Perera said:You could use one of these books as a guide to help you should you decide to take this project on:
The Questions of Jesus, by John Dear ("offers a 2-3 page reflection [each] on 125 of Jesus' questions")
The Questions of Jesus: Meditations on the Red Letter Questions by Don Harris ("There are 151 questions, formulated in the mind of the Son of God, recorded in the Scriptures. This book explores them all.")
These are not available in Logos, unfortunately.
I had read it when she posted it, but forgot to scan the thread before posting my reply.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Dominick Sela said:
I think this OPenText query gives all questions in the Bible, but I could not figure out how to direct it just to Words of Christ
I used Unordered to simplify your query and I have a reference range for WOC that you can get here 3755.WOC_ESV.txt.
The lemma tis is an interrogative pronoun but I could not use the morphology because it would exclude Matt 5:46. The pronoun is also used in 5:47 but OpenText got that wrong(?) and it's not worth the false positives to exclude the Definer!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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INteresting thread it would be nice to completely figure it out!
Here is another example of why we need to be able to do some sort of wildcard search - if I could do a search that returns all the verses of Words of Christ, I could then create a passage list and search against that. I tried searching Words of Christ for '?' and it returned everything, and redundantly it appears. Some searches Logos appears not to be able to handle very well, although it could easily be my own experience with it shining through!
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Floyd and Rosie:
Are you familiar with the book Teaching As Jesus Taught by Roy Zuck . I believe it contains the most complete lists of question and analysis available. He list 225 questions. See my prior post.
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JohnBrumett said:
Are you familiar with the book Teaching As Jesus Taught by Roy Zuck . I believe it contains the most complete lists of question and analysis available. He list 225 questions. See my prior post.
I am familiar with the author, but not this book. I would tend to trust most of what he has written - though I have no way of comparing this book to the others listed here. Maybe Rosie or somebody else has some sense of how this book compares to the others.
Since you cannot do the search yourself, at this point, it might not be a bad choice to pick up two or three of those mentioned in the thread to compare their results. I found one of them used on-line for less than $5, including shipping.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Floyd Johnson said:JohnBrumett said:
Are you familiar with the book Teaching As Jesus Taught by Roy Zuck . I believe it contains the most complete lists of question and analysis available. He list 225 questions. See my prior post.
I am familiar with the author, but not this book. I would tend to trust most of what he has written - though I have no way of comparing this book to the others listed here. Maybe Rosie or somebody else has some sense of how this book compares to the others.
Since you cannot do the search yourself, at this point, it might not be a bad choice to pick up two or three of those mentioned in the thread to compare their results. I found one of them used on-line for less than $5, including shipping.
I'm not familiar with the book. My post came much before your post, and Floyd was just copying it forward in case others had missed it. You might be right that Zuck's book is the most complete. I am not familiar with either of the ones I mentioned. I just found them in a search on Amazon.com. The Don Harris one claims to be exhaustive as well. But 225 > 151 > 125. So Zuck's is probably the most complete. I guess it might get down to dithering over what is or isn't a question. Also, in addition to being exhaustive in listing the questions, one would also want to see how thorough and edifying the discussions of the questions are. Is it just some watered-down mush, or is it really thoughtful and spiritually nourishing? This sounds like an interesting area to explore, but I'm not interested in it enough to buy all or even one of the books to pursue it. If someone wants to do a comparison, you could probably borrow the books for free from your local library via Inter-Library Loan. Only two of them are listed on worldcat.org, though:
John Dear, The Questions of Jesus - 71 libraries in North America have it
Roy Zuck, Teaching as Jesus Taught - 122 libraries have it
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JohnBrumett said:
He lists 225 questions. See my prior post.
One common reason for a discrepancy in count is whether each synoptic Gospel version is counted individually. Another is how rhetorical questions are handled.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thank you Floyd and Rosie for responding. I had the privlidge of sitting under Dr. Zuck teaching and I and tell you he is very meticulous in his study of scripture and very practical at the same time.
In this book he expounds on 15 purposes for Jesus asking questions.
1. To petition for information or to recall facts
2. To promote conversation
3. To point out something contrary to fact
4. To procure assent
5. To push for an expression of faith
6. To prod for an opinion or an expression of a desire
7. To prove or to test faith or spiritual commitment
8. To promote thinking or reflection
9. To persuade critics of their errors
10. To pull person(s) up short
11. To pour out an emotion
12. To probe for motives
13. To prick the conscience
14. To pinpoint a topic
15. To press for application of the truth
Zuck classifies every question according to these categories.
M.J. Zuck list of 225 combines all accounts in the gospels. He had a table listing a total of 304 questions of Jesus in the Gospels Matthew 90 Mark 67 Luke 96 and John 51. Rhetorical questions are under classification #8 (to promote thinking or reflection.
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JohnBrumett said:
13. To *** the conscience
Ha! The forum software thought you were using a rude word and censored you. We know what word you meant, though. Silly software!
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I will give you a hint. It is 5 lettlers and begins with a P and ends with a K. Do a search of your dictionary pr??k. Ha Ha
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Hey all,
I just wanted to take the time to thank you all for a great dicussion on this thread. I've been monitoring it for the past few days and have found it to be very educational. Search is one of the L4 features that I haven't used very much. I do a lot of reading and checking the original languages, as well as using the clause graphs. I wasn't aware that L4 would allow you to merge searches and only keep the results that overlap. That is very interesting. You guys really do make this software much better. Thanks again.
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Dominick Sela said:
INteresting thread it would be nice to completely figure it out!
Yes. The OpenText Syntax is unsatisfactory together with the others. The simple text search is the best!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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This has been added to the wiki as : http://topics.logos.com/All_the_Questions_Jesus_Christ_Asked
Please add to it as you have time and information.[:)]
It would be great if we could get some of these books mentioned here in LOGOS!
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