SUGGESTION:highlighting in multiple bibles

Tim Engwer
Tim Engwer Member Posts: 457 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is it possible to highlight a passage in one bible and have all the bibles highlighted the same?  As far as I can see from an old post this is not possible.  If so then this is a suggestion.  It would be nice to be able to decide if you want just one bible highlighted or all by a menu option etc.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    Transferring manual highlights to other bibles would be difficult due to different wording, formatting and headings. If you want it on a whole passage then a Visual Filter is the best method, although there would need to be improvements because using a wildcard (*) for all text is very slow.

    You could use a Morph Search and have a search term consisting of all parts of speech:-

    @V OR @N OR @P OR @A etc.

    But the highlighting is not continuous.

    It is possible ...

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Tim Engwer
    Tim Engwer Member Posts: 457 ✭✭

    Transferring manual highlights to other bibles would be difficult due to different wording, formatting and headings

     

    Why would it be difficult to, for example, highlight John 15:1 in the NASB and then have the same verse automatically highlighted in other bibles.  Perhaps I shouldn't have said "passages" but rather verses. 

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    TimEngwer said:

    Why would it be difficult to, for example, highlight John 15:1 in the NASB and then have the same verse automatically highlighted in other bibles.  Perhaps I shouldn't have said "passages" but rather verses. 

    I wasn't sure about the extent of highlighting you envisaged as the Highlighing tool can apply to any part of a verse (or text in general) and be near impossible to transfer to other bibles.  The Visual Filter would be ideal for whole verses if Logos would provide a faster method than those I put forward and not just highlight the individual words!

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭

    TimEngwer said:

    Why would it be difficult to, for example, highlight John 15:1 in the NASB and then have the same verse automatically highlighted in other bibles.  Perhaps I shouldn't have said "passages" but rather verses. 

    I wasn't sure about the extent of highlighting you envisaged as the Highlighing tool can apply to any part of a verse (or text in general) and be near impossible to transfer to other bibles.  The Visual Filter would be ideal for whole verses if Logos would provide a faster method than those I put forward and not just highlight the individual words!

    I suggested that long time ago but understand the difficulty of doing that with all the flexibility of highlighting Logos provides. I don't know the way highlighting is tagged by Logos but it would be nice to have an option to use some kind of general highlighting in the Bibles that would be bound to the verses. Or, what about using the Reverse interlinear underlying original text as base for the highlighting tagging? I know it would show differently in each Bible since the word-order is different, but it might be the way to go.

    Bohuslav

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,538

    what about using the Reverse interlinear underlying original text as base for the highlighting tagging?

    This is the cleanest solution - but implies that Logos will create reverse interlinear's for all translations and still leaves open the question of textual variants.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    I suggested that long time ago but understand the difficulty of doing that with all the flexibility of highlighting Logos provides. I don't know the way highlighting is tagged by Logos but it would be nice to have an option to use some kind of general highlighting in the Bibles that would be bound to the verses.

    The more I think about it the more possible it becomes to implement in the Highlighting tool whilst the Visual Filter remains the most likely!

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    MJ. Smith said:

    what about using the Reverse interlinear underlying original text as base for the highlighting tagging?

    This is the cleanest solution - but implies that Logos will create reverse interlinear's for all translations and still leaves open the question of textual variants.

    How would it work with this verse (ESV)?

    image

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    what about using the Reverse interlinear underlying original text as base for the highlighting tagging?

    This is the cleanest solution - but implies that Logos will create reverse interlinear's for all translations and still leaves open the question of textual variants.

    How would it work with this verse (ESV)?

    image

    What about something like that? For me it would be very interesting, to see the different word order according to what Bible I open. Of course it would have to be available only with the RI Bibles (that are many and, according to Bob, we will see even more of them). Here is just simple example of Sympathetic Highlighting, what can show how it would look like:

    image

    EDIT:  It would I think keep together expressions that are to be together (indivisible sequence of words that translate one Hebrew word etc.) For example: in ESV Hebrew word chesed is translated most often as "steadfast love" while in NASB it is "lovingkindness" and in NKJV it is just "mercy". That fact would make it even more interesting feature IMHO.

    Bohuslav

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,538

    It would I think keep together expressions that are to be together (indivisible sequence of words that translate one Hebrew word etc.)

    One thing I appreciate from linguistics that has been slow to make it into dictionaries is the use of "lexical unit" rather than "word" - mind you the concept of word is nearly meaningless in my primary foreign language. The difference is that a lexical unit covers multi-word units of meaning such as idioms and (English) verb-preposition pairs etc. "Grow up,"  "Shut up," "Close up"  are examples. So I like the idea of keeping expressions together for parallel markups

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."