Syntax Query using Greek Lemma

I was trying to duplicate what was demonstrated in SYNTAX SEARCHING: FOR EVERYONE:USING QUERY FORMS and attemped to search for βασιλεία as a prepositional object.- but I couldn't get the possible GREEK forms to show up. Could you explain how this process works?

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Kevin Becker

The g: and h: prefix forms work just like Morph search only there are two boxes, one for manuscript (text) and lemma.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154473#Comment_154473

Hi Kevin

When I try and do this, while the use of g: in the "Lemma" box works, it doesn't seem to in the "Text" box.

I have noticed this a number of times but never got round to flagging it.

Do you see the same?

Graham

Bill Fiess

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154473#Comment_154473

Kevin,

How do you get the column on the right to come up? When I click QUERY I get a choice for TEMPLATES [like PREPOSITIONAL OBJECT (CASCADIA)] and a search box which says GREEK PREP. OBJ - but nothing more.

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154492#Comment_154492

When I try and do this, while the use of g: in the "Lemma" box works, it doesn't seem to in the "Text" box.

It works for me (I am running the beta though)

Kevin,

How do you get the column on the right to come up? When I click QUERY
I get a choice for TEMPLATES [like PREPOSITIONAL OBJECT (CASCADIA)]
and a search box which says GREEK PREP. OBJ - but nothing more.

You click on a node (i.e. the box that says Word) and the right column appears with the options that you can edit for that node.

See: http://wiki.logos.com/A_Strategy_for_Syntax_Search

Bill Fiess

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154508#Comment_154508

Kevin,

I am running Logos 4.0d [the latest version] and just downloaded Scholar's Library Gold yesterday - but I don't have a search format like you are describing. [I can't find a box that says WORD.]

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154519#Comment_154519

Bill,

Start a syntax search from the file menu: File>Syntax search.

Once that floating window is open, make sure that the proper resource is what you want; Cascadia, OpenText, whatever.

Then click where it says: "add search terms here" and you'll get a drop down menu where "word' is one of your choices...

Bill Fiess

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154528#Comment_154528

Thanks, Robert.

But I still am a bit confused.. First of all, I notice that the video is starting from SEARCH [rather than FILE] and doing a slightly different syntax search [using the QUERY drop down menu]. [See http://blog.logos.com/archives/2010/07/syntax_searching_for_everyone_using_query_forms.html ]. I can do everything he describes until it comes to searching for the Greek lemma βασιλεία - and then I cannot get a listing of possible Greek forms.

I also attempted to do what you suggested [starting from FILE/SYNTAX SEARCH] and did open the drop down menu for WORD. But I can't seem to bring a listing of possible forms to appear when I begin typing in the LEMMA box.

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154551#Comment_154551

Thanks, Robert.

But I still am a bit confused.. First of all, I notice that the video is starting from SEARCH [rather than FILE] and doing a slightly different syntax search [using the QUERY drop down menu]. [See http://blog.logos.com/archives/2010/07/syntax_searching_for_everyone_using_query_forms.html ]. I can do everything he describes until it comes to searching for the Greek lemma βασιλεία - and then I cannot get a listing of possible Greek forms.

I also attempted to do what you suggested [starting from FILE/SYNTAX SEARCH] and did open the drop down menu for WORD. But I can't seem to bring a listing of possible forms to appear when I begin typing in the LEMMA box.

The Templates that you access from the Syntax Search window can be edited or changed from a syntax search document. They are two ways of getting at the same thing. When you want a list of Greek lemmas to appear you must prefix your typing with g: and then phonetically spell out the Greek word. A dropdown will give you suggestions from there you can pick the lemma you want.

Here's my results

EDIT: make certain you don't have the "English Prepositional Object", but "Prepositional Object"

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/154559#Comment_154559

Bill, in case you are interested

If you want to go beyond what the templates allow for you create a syntax search document. You can start with the templates provided or construct one from scratch.