Aramaic Papyri of the Fifth Century?

Ben
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edited November 2024 in English Forum

This resource isn't listed anywhere on Logos.com except in certain packages. I'd like to know more about it, especially if it's something like this.

http://www.accordancebible.com/store/details/?pid=TAD-T

 

Anyone own it?

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  • NetworkGeek
    NetworkGeek Member Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭

    I have it, what do you want to know? It has 83 documents, about 35 are unnamed fragments.

    The following are some of the books and articles which have been consulted, besides those mentioned in the notes:
    Anneler, Zur Geschichte d. Juden in Elephantine. (Diss.) Bern, 1912 (with bibliography).
    Arnold, Journal of Biblical Literature 1912, p. 1 (on pap. 21).
    Barth, Jahrbuch d. Jüdisch-Literarischen Gesellschaft 1907, p. 323 (on Sachau’s Drei aramäische Papyrus).
    ——— Revue Sémitique 1907, p. 522 (on no. 15); 1909, p. 149 (on ??? or ???).
    ——— Zeitschrift f. Assyriologie 1908, p. 188 (on pap. 30).
    ——— Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 10.
    Blau, Magyar-zsidó Szemle 1912, p. 41; 1921, p. 44.
    ——— in Festschrift H. Cohen. Berlin, 1912, p. 207.
    Bornstein in Festschrift Harkavy. St. Petersburg 1908, p. 63 Heb. (on dates).
    Boylan, Irish Theological Quarterly 1912, p. 40.
    Bruston, Revue de Théologie et de Philosophie 1908, p. 97.
    Büchler, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 126 (on pap. 26).
    Burney, Expositor 1912, p. 97.
    ——— Church Quarterly Review 74 (1912), p. 392.
    Chabot, Journal Asiatique 14 (1909), p. 515 (on dates).
    Clermont-Ganneau, Recueil d’Archéologie Orientale vi (1905), pp. 147, 221.
    ——— Revue Critique d’histoire 1906 (2), p. 341.
    Cook (S. A.), American Journal of Theology 1915, p. 346.
    ——— Expositor 1912, p. 193.
    Cooke (G. A.), Journal of Theological Studies 1907, p. 615.
    Daiches, Zeitschrift für Assyriologie 1909, p. 197.
    ——— Proceedings of the Society of Biblical Archaeology 1912, p. 17.
    Desnoyers, Bulletin de Littérature Ecclésiastique 1907, pp. 138, 176; 1908, p. 235.
    Döller, Theologische Quartalschrift 1907, p. 497.
    Eerdmans, Theologisch Tijdschrift 1908, p. 72.
    Elhorst, Journal of Biblical Literature 1912, p. 147.
    Epstein (J. N.), Jahrbuch d. Jüdisch-Literarischen Gesellschaft 1909, p. 359.
    ——— Zeitschrift d. Alttestamentlichen Wissenschaft 1912, pp. 128, 139; 1913, p. 138.
    Fischer (L.), Jahrbuch d. Jüdisch-Literarischen Gesellschaft 1911, p. 371 Heb. (on legal forms); 1912, p. 45.
    Fotheringham, see Introduction, p. v, note 5.
    ——— Journal of Theological Studies 14 (1913), p. 570 (on dates).
    Fränkel, Zeitschrift f. Assyriologie 1908, p. 240.
    Freund, Vienna Oriental Journal, or Wiener Zeitschrift f. d. Kunde d. Morgenlands 1907, p. 169 (on pap. 15).
    von Gall, Vorträge d. theologischen Konferenz zu Giessen 1912, no. 34.
    van Gelderen, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 337.
    Ginzel, Handbuch d. Chronologie ii, p. 45; iii, p. 375.
    Gray (G. B.) in Studien Wellhausen, Giessen 1914, p. 163 (on names).
    Grimme, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1911, p. 529, (on A?i?ar); 1912, p. 11.
    Guillaume, Expository Times 32 (1921), p. 377.
    Gunkel, Expositor 1911, p. 20.
    Gutesmann, Revue des Études Juives 53 (1907), p. 194 (on dates).
    Halévy, Journal Asiatique 18 (1911), p. 658; 19 (1912), pp. 410, 622.
    ——— Revue Sémitique 1911, p. 473; 1912, pp. 31, 153, 252.
    Holtzmann, Theologische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 166 (on Sprengling, AJSL 1911).
    Hontheim, Biblische Zeitschrift 1907, p. 225 (on dates).
    Jampel, Monatschrift f. d. Geschichte d. Judentums 1907, p. 617.
    Jirku, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 247.
    Knobel (E. B.), see Introduction, p. v, note 4.
    Knudtzon, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 486 (on ???).
    Köberle, Neue Kirchliche Zeitschrift 1908, p. 173.
    Lagrange, Revue Biblique 1907, p. 258; 1912, p. 575.
    Leander, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 151 (on ???).
    Lévi (Isr.), Revue des Études Juives 54 (1907), pp. 35, 153; 56 (1908), p. 161; 63 (1912), p. 161.
    Lidzbarski, Ephemeris ii (1906), p. 210; iii (1909), p. 70; (1912), p. 238.
    ——— Deutsche Literaturzeitung 1906, p. 3205; 1907, p. 3160; 1911, p. 2966.
    Mahler, Zeitschrift f. Assyriologie 1912, p. 61 (on dates).
    Margolis, Jewish Quarterly Review, new series ii (1911–12), p. 419.
    Meyer (Ed.), Sitzungsberichte d. k. Preussischen Akademie 1911, p. 1026.
    ——— Der Papyrusfund von Elephantine. Leipzig, 1912.
    Mittwoch in Festschrift A. Cohen. Berlin, 1912, p. 227.
    Montgomery, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 535 (on A?i?ar).
    Nau, Journal Asiatique 18 (1911), p. 660.
    ——— Revue Biblique 1912, p. 68.
    Nöldeke, Zeitschrift f. Assyriologie 1907, p. 130; 1908, p. 195 (on pap. 30).
    ——— Literarisches Zentralblatt 1911, p. 1503.
    Peiser, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1907, p. 622; 1908, pp. 24, 73 (on Staerk).
    Perles, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1908, p. 26; 1911, p. 497; 1912, p. 54.
    Peters, Die jüdische Gemeinde von Elephantine … Freiburg i. Br. 1910.
    Pognon, Journal Asiatique 18 (1911), p. 337 (on dates).
    Poznanski (S.), Zycie Zydowskie 1907 (nos. 13, 14), p. 219.
    ——— Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1921, p. 303.
    Prašek, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 168 (on Sprengling AJSL 1911).
    Pritsch, Zeitschrift f. Assyriologie 1911, p. 345 (on pap. 20).
    Sachau, Drei Aramäische Papyrusurkunden. Berlin, 1908.
    ——— in Florilegium de Vogüé. Paris, 1909, p. 529 (on pap. 35).
    Sayce, Expositor 1911, pp. 97, 417.
    Schultess, Göttingische Gelehrte Anzeigen 1907, p. 181.
    Schürer, Theologische Literaturzeitung 1907, pp. 1, 65.
    Schwally, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 160.
    Seidel, Zeitschrift d. alttestamentlichen Wissenschaft 1912, p. 292.
    Sidersky, Journal Asiatique 16 (1910), p. 587 (on dates).
    Smyly, see Introduction, p. xiii, note 6.
    Spiegelberg, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1913, p. 15; 1912, p. 1 (on names).
    Sprengling, American Journal of Semitic Languages 27 (1911), p. 233.
    ——— American Journal of Theology 1917, p. 411; 1918, p. 349.
    Staerk, Die jüdisch-aramäischen Papyri … in Kleine Texte, nos. 22, 23. Bonn, 1907, and no. 32, 1908.
    ——— Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1908 (Beiheft).
    Torczyner, Zeitschrift d. Deutschen Morgenländischen Gesellschaft 1916, p. 288 (bibliography).
    ——— Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 397.
    Ungnad, Aramäische Papyrus … kleine Ausgabe. Leipzig, 1911.
    de Vogüé, Comptes Rendus de l’Académie des Inscriptions 1906, p. 499.
    Wensinck, Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 1912, p. 49 (on A?i?ar).


    A. Cowley, Aramaic Papyri of the Fifth Century B.C., viii–x (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009).

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Ben said:

    Anyone own it?

    Here are the first 15:

    Agreement dated 495 b.c.
    Contract for supplying Corn to the Garrison 484 b.c.
    A Duplicate (?) of No. 2
    A small Fragment, apparently connected with Nos. 2 and 3.
    Grant of Building Rights. 471 b.c.
    Conveyance. 465 b.c.
    A Case of Burglary. 461 b.c.
    Conveyance. 460 b.c.
    Deed relating to the Reversion of the Property in No. 8. 460 b.c.
    Contract for a Loan. 456 b.c.
    Contract for a Loan. About 455 b.c.
    List of Names, undated
    Conveyance of a House. 447 b.c.
    Settlement of Claim. 441 b.c.
    Marriage Contract. About 441 b.c.

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  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Ben said:

    Anyone own it?

    I am not sure how much I can quote within copyright guidelines but here is the beginning portion of the commentary of fragment #21

    Order to keep the (Passover and) Feast of Unleavened Bread. 419 b.c.

    See Barth in OLZ 1912, 10, and Ed. Meyer in Sitzb. Berl. Akad. 1911, p. 1026.

    This is one of the most interesting and important of these texts. See Introduction, p. xvi.

    The date is the 5th year of Darius. This must be Darius II, since Yedoniah, who is addressed evidently as head of the community, holds the same position in no. 30 (408 b.c.). The year is therefore 419 b.c.

    It is a letter from Hananiah, whose mission must have been official and important, since his arrival in Egypt is mentioned as a well-known event in 387. Unfortunately the papyrus is very imperfect, half of the lines 4–10 being lost, but enough remains to show that it contains a direction to keep the festival of (Passover? and) Unleavened bread, and gives instructions for doing so. What is still more remarkable is that this direction is based on the authority of Darius himself. The question then arises, was this community, which possessed a temple and offered sacrifice to Ya’u, ignorant of the greatest of Jewish national festivals? Had they never celebrated it before? Was it a new institution? What had the Persian king to do with it? Something has already been said on these points in the Introduction, p. xvi+. A few remarks may be added here.



    Cowley, A. (2009). Aramaic papyri of the fifth century B.C. "The words of Aḥiḳar": p. 212-248.; "The Behistun inscription [fragments of an Aramaic version]": p. 248-271. (60). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.



    I hope that helps give you an idea. Many fragments are just mundane scraps of daily life. A few cover interesting characters we know well from Nehemiah and Josephus.


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  • David Knoll
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    It is not morphologically tagged and certainly not as comprehensive as Porten Yardeni. You cannot compare the two.

     

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Ben said:

    Anyone own it?

    The actual fragment and translation (first 4 verses):

    1     אל אח]יֿ

    2     יד]ניה וכנותה חֿ[ילא י]הודיא אחוכם חננ[יה] שלם אחי אלהיא [ישאלו

    3     וכעת שנתא זא שנת דריוהוש מלכא מן מלכא שליח על ארש[ם לאמר

    4     בירח תעובי יחוי פסח לחילא יהוד]יא כעת אנתם כן מנו ארב[עת עשר



    1To my brethren, 2Yedoniah and his colleagues the Jewish garrison, your brother Hananiah. The welfare of my brethren may the gods seek. 3Now this year, the 5th year of King Darius, word was sent from the king to Arsames, saying: 4In the month of Tybi (?) let there be a Passover for the Jewish garrison. Now you accordingly count fourteen



    Cowley, A. (2009). Aramaic papyri of the fifth century B.C. "The words of Aḥiḳar": p. 212-248.; "The Behistun inscription [fragments of an Aramaic version]": p. 248-271. (63). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭
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    Thanks for the info guys.

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭
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    Any chance of this resource being available separately in the future?

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