Find out the most popular Logos resources - and see which ones you're missing!
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Pam Larson said:
I get it come up twice once hidden, once not and they are both by Logos but different publication dates and the second copy is not the Thomas Nelson New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge
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Andrew is right. There are actually three TSKs in my database:
- LLS:TSK2008, (published 2009)
- LLS:26.0.1 (published 1995)
- LLS:26.0.1202 (published by E4)
If you have the first resource, then the second resource is automatically hidden by Logos. They do the same with some old Westminster Confessions too. It was confirmed once by Bob, but I can't find the thread now.
Anyway, the links above work, so you can open the 'hidden' version though that link, even though it doesn't show up in your library. You can also open it by typing logosres:26.0.1 in your command bar.
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Mark A. Smith said:
Mine, too, and it lists as missing rather than hidden all the earliest Greek manuscripts and the Tragums.
I'll look into this.
Mark A. Smith said:I also seem to have lost book covers the last time I ran the report. Just blue rectangles.
Yes, sorry. Whilst trying to optimise the code I broke the 50px images. I'm working on it.
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Mark Barnes said:
Whilst trying to optimise the code I broke the 50px images.
No problem. Thanks for all the effort you've already put in. It is a very interesting report.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Hi Mark:
Once, more than a year ago, I used your site to generate a report. It was very useful. However, I am having trouble getting back into your site.
Somewhere along the line, I lost my username and password to your site. I used your site to request my username by submitting my email address. It tells me to check my email, but there is nothing there. I have even checked the spam filters, and still nothing.
I have submitted a new email for a new account, but when your site tells me to check my email, I have nothing.
What am I doing wrong?
Chuck
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OK, I have some good news:
- Speed issues should be completely solved:
- The report now runs far quicker than it did before - down from 90 seconds per query to less than 2 seconds.
- All images should now be cached by your browser, meaning subsequent re-runs of the report should be extremely quick (though browsers vary substantially I've found).
- You can now choose to not show images, for an even quicker response.
- Functionality is much improved:
- You can now show just the books that are/are not in your library
- You have three sorting options: Number of users, Average Rating, and Average Rating by Type (the latter one needs some dividers I think to make it clearer - that's coming). A report on resources not in your library sorted by Average Rating might show up some potential purchases.
- Links now work better (opens in Logos if you own the resource, more intelligent Google search if you don't).
- A note on bugs:
- I'm seeing some resources that I've hidden showing up as if I don't own it. I think this is actually a bug in Logos.
- If you're still getting blue images, they're probably cached. SHIFT+REFRESH should clear them.
- I'm looking to the other reported problems.
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Chuck Forsythe said:
Somewhere along the line, I lost my username and password to your site. I used your site to request my username by submitting my email address. It tells me to check my email, but there is nothing there. I have even checked the spam filters, and still nothing.
Not sure why that is, but I've sent you an email direct.
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Mark, here's what I just got when doing the following report:
Everything in the report is highlighted in yellow:
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Thank you very much for responding to me and for all the work you do on behalf of Logos users!
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Mark A. Smith said:
Mark, here's what I just got when doing the following report:
Sorry. It's fixed now.
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Mark Barnes said:
Sorry. It's fixed now.
Thanks. It is indeed.
Another problem: can't seem to get the 'By type, then rating' report to generate:
I've tried the various options in the second drop-down list. I get a blank page popping up quickly. The page says Done in the LLH corner. Nothing else seems to be going on to wait for.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Thanks Mark for your work!
I did a quick comparison of the package books that are included in bibliographic report and come up with following rough percentages:
Silver 73%
Gold 62%
Platinum 54%
Portfolio 13%
The test group was only 262 libraries and doesn't necessarily have the same percentages as the tens of thousands who own Logos libraries. It is a good indication of the kind of libraries that the forum users own.
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Wayne,
I am confused. What does the percentage represent?
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark A. Smith said:
What does the percentage represent?
I interpreted it as "Silver or above", "Gold or above" ...
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Mark A. Smith said:
Another problem: can't seem to get the 'By type, then rating' report to generate
That's fixed too. Thanks.
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Rosie Perera said:
Mark, one question: on the main page of your bibliography report tool, once I'm logged in, it says "Your library has 4,327 resources. (This will probably be slightly larger than the number shown in Logos 4, as Logos4 hides some resources that are not accessed through the Library, such as reverse interlinears)." OK, so I can understand this figure, and why it is larger than the 4,114 that are visible in my Library. But then when I generate the report, it says at the top of it "There are 250 users' libraries in this database. You have 3,336 resources in yours." Why is this so much lower than the other numbers?
I've now fixed all the missing resources problems, hopefully for everyone else, too.
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Another update - probably the last. Two new features:
- Filter by popularity
- Filter by rating
Just (optionally) enter a minimum rating or popularity, to weed out minority resources, and speed up the page load.
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Mark Barnes said:
Another update - probably the last. Two new features:
- Filter by popularity
- Filter by rating
Just (optionally) enter a minimum rating or popularity, to weed out minority resources, and speed up the page load.
Very nice. Found myself wanting to see only the resources rated by more than X users, however. Maybe a future enhancement?
Thanks again for making this available, Mark.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Barnes said:
Another update - probably the last. Two new features:
- Filter by popularity
- Filter by rating
Just (optionally) enter a minimum rating or popularity, to weed out minority resources, and speed up the page load.
The report option of show me resources other's have that I don't is dangerous.....maybe Logos marketing should take up the idea and incorporate these ideas into our account pages.. After all they have everyone's data available.... starting to think librarything now, but they could suggest resources that you don't own but people with similar libraries do own....
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Mark Barnes said:
Another update - probably the last. Two new features:
- Filter by popularity
- Filter by rating
Just (optionally) enter a minimum rating or popularity, to weed out minority resources, and speed up the page load.
I was hoping to see sort by Publisher. I'm interested to see what other books lots of people have that I don't have yet, but the large majority of these are from publishers I'd never buy books from. However there are a few publishers I go back to again and again (Baker, Eerdmans, T&T Clark, Sheffield, etc.) and I'd be interested to see if I've missed books they publish which are in other people's libraries. I did find one just by paging through and looking for the yellow highlighting, but being able to sort by publisher would make this easier. Of course all of this will probably be a moot point once Logos rolls out its new website, which I hope will include the ability to show all books in their catalogue by publisher and filter out the ones you already own. (I'm getting antsy for the new website. I wonder how far along it is?)
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Mark A. Smith said:
Found myself wanting to see only the resources rated by more than X users
Wow. Ask and you shall receive.
Very nice to have this feature. Thank you.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark A. Smith said:
I am confused. What does the percentage represent?
I looked at the books that were part of each collection. Roughly 13% of all the libraries represented in the report had the books that are part of the Portfolio collection. 54% of the libraries in the report had the books that are part of the Platinum collection. And 62% of all libraries in the report had gold level books and 73% had the books in the silver collection.
Another way to look at the information is that out of the 262 users at the time that I generated the report, the following owned the following libraries or greater.
262 total libraries
73% or 191 libraries were silver or above
62% or 162 libraries were gold or above
54% or 142 libraries were platinum or above
13% or 34 libraries were portfolio.
A friend was telling me how their son suffered in passing a statistics course. I never took such a course or maybe I would be better in my explanation. Hopefully I was clearer in this post.
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Thanks for helping me better understand those figures. I find it interesting that 13% (one out of just over 7.5 people) of those who submitted their libraries for comparison have the portfolio edition. We who have submitted our libraries are no doubt more serious users than the average Logos user so probably have on average more resources.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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I'm sure that people who use the report (and these forums) probably have larger libraries than average. The size of all the libraries uploaded are spread pretty evenly however - I've listed them below for those who are interested. (Hope it's not too difficult to read - I've tried to keep it compact.) The figures should be equal to the number of resources that you can see in your own library, so you should be able to find your own resource count in here (at least your resource count when you last uploaded).
6093 5648 5610 5584 4813 4538 4485 4114 4048 4022 3996 3965
3936 3890 3827 3719 3499 3490 3478 3461 3444 3442 3401 3371 3347 3277 3227 3205
3198 3133 3106 3092 3074 3072 3037 3005 2986 2983 2972 2965 2961 2960 2928 2924
2862 2843 2807 2787 2759 2727 2718 2715 2689 2678 2660 2615 2600 2599 2579 2578
2548 2539 2503 2499 2482 2474 2468 2466 2464 2451 2421 2398 2371 2366 2338 2338
2337 2321 2296 2206 2168 2159 2153 2151 2149 2131 2103 2087 2045 2043 2015 2006
1999 1992 1962 1953 1941 1923 1918 1909 1883 1871 1849 1847 1831 1830 1824 1819
1811 1801 1787 1773 1743 1728 1707 1706 1702 1695 1691 1685 1683 1667 1667 1649
1643 1640 1631 1622 1619 1617 1615 1612 1609 1606 1605 1597 1595 1584 1579 1549
1546 1540 1535 1524 1523 1496 1490 1489 1471 1470 1455 1452 1451 1439 1437 1430
1424 1415 1412 1405 1405 1398 1392 1390 1378 1377 1368 1348 1348 1341 1339 1332
1329 1319 1319 1317 1313 1308 1295 1269 1261 1257 1243 1243 1235 1215 1211 1209
1133 1098 1094 1082 1070 1070 1036 1025 1017 1010 1008 995 987 977 961 948 948
918 881 880 878 868 867 865 856 825 823 822 817 803 778 777 772 769 768 765 746
737 705 690 683 681 672 672 657 647 646 628 612 587 585 569 558 542 540 538 534
512 508 506 504 504 502 502 496 482 471 463 461 453 445 437 430 387 368 365 352
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Thanks for this post, Mark! And thanks for all the work you do for the Lord and His People! *smile*
I really find this truly fascinating. Looking forward to future listings!
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Mark Barnes said:
I'm sure that people who use the report (and these forums) probably have larger libraries than average. The size of all the libraries uploaded are spread pretty evenly however - I've listed them below for those who are interested. (Hope it's not too difficult to read - I've tried to keep it compact.) The figures should be equal to the number of resources that you can see in your own library, so you should be able to find your own resource count in here (at least your resource count when you last uploaded).
6093 5648 5610 5584 4813 4538 4485 4114 4048 4022 3996 3965
3936 3890 3827 3719 3499 3490 3478 3461 3444 3442 3401 3371 3347 3277 3227 3205
3198 3133 3106 3092 3074 3072 3037 3005 2986 2983 2972 2965 2961 2960 2928 2924
2862 2843 2807 2787 2759 2727 2718 2715 2689 2678 2660 2615 2600 2599 2579 2578
2548 2539 2503 2499 2482 2474 2468 2466 2464 2451 2421 2398 2371 2366 2338 2338
2337 2321 2296 2206 2168 2159 2153 2151 2149 2131 2103 2087 2045 2043 2015 2006
1999 1992 1962 1953 1941 1923 1918 1909 1883 1871 1849 1847 1831 1830 1824 1819
1811 1801 1787 1773 1743 1728 1707 1706 1702 1695 1691 1685 1683 1667 1667 1649
1643 1640 1631 1622 1619 1617 1615 1612 1609 1606 1605 1597 1595 1584 1579 1549
1546 1540 1535 1524 1523 1496 1490 1489 1471 1470 1455 1452 1451 1439 1437 1430
1424 1415 1412 1405 1405 1398 1392 1390 1378 1377 1368 1348 1348 1341 1339 1332
1329 1319 1319 1317 1313 1308 1295 1269 1261 1257 1243 1243 1235 1215 1211 1209
1133 1098 1094 1082 1070 1070 1036 1025 1017 1010 1008 995 987 977 961 948 948
918 881 880 878 868 867 865 856 825 823 822 817 803 778 777 772 769 768 765 746
737 705 690 683 681 672 672 657 647 646 628 612 587 585 569 558 542 540 538 534
512 508 506 504 504 502 502 496 482 471 463 461 453 445 437 430 387 368 365 352
348 343 339 332 282 276 276 274 272 264Hmm, is there some discrepancy between these numbers and the number that reported on the Popularity Report? The total on my report says 2508, but that number isn't listed in your list (2503 is the closest).
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Todd Phillips said:
The figures should be equal to the number of resources that you can see in your own library
He has adjusted the figures to show what your Library says. The numbers in the generated reports have higher counts as he explains on the web site. So you should be able to find your actual Library count in the list above.
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Mark A. Smith said:Todd Phillips said:
The figures should be equal to the number of resources that you can see in your own library
He has adjusted the figures to show what your Library says. The numbers in the generated reports have higher counts as he explains on the web site. So you should be able to find your actual Library count in the list above.
Ah thanks Mark. I was wrongly assuming that "your own library" meant the report. Since I've added books to my local library since I last uploaded, I can't compare that number (exactly), but I think I see it.
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Mark, I'm eager to update my catalog.db file so I thought I'd upload a new one. However the last few times I've tried it has been taking hours and hours. Last night I disabled my hard drive sleep so the upload wouldn't cut off yet its still uploading my file. I wish it was because I had 10,000 resources alas I've yet to hit 1,800. Could it be my very slow ([sn]) upload rate or something else?
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Paul Newsome said:
Could it be my very slow (
) upload rate or something else?It takes quite a while to squeeze your book covers down to fit through the little wire coming out of the back of your computer. Try shaking the wire to see if it is jammed up. [:^)]
Actually mine went pretty slow the first time because Mark had a lot of traffic. Last couple of times were much quicker. With the size of your library it should not have taken more than 20-30 minutes unless that little wire is clogged up. Give it a shake just to be sure.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Careful Mark, I've done enough tech support to know that somebody somewhere is going to do this because a Logos MVP suggested it. LOLMark A. Smith said:Give it a shake just to be sure.
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Paul Newsome said:
Could it be my very slow (
) upload rate or something else?What is your upload rate?
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Mark Barnes said:Paul Newsome said:
Could it be my very slow (
) upload rate or something else?What is your upload rate?
well according to the nifty link someone posted on an earlier thread I believe it was around 100Kbps. A couple of weeks ago I was able to upload in about 45 minutes but recently it has either timed out or I have nixed it before completion. Last night/this morning it was working for 10 hours before I stopped it. [:(]
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100kbs equals 0.7Mb per minute. Your file will probably be around 20Mb, which should 'only' take 30 minutes. I'm currently re-uploading my own file to see if I get any problems.
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Mark Barnes said:
I'm currently re-uploading my own file to see if I get any problems.
If you do, try shaking that little wire on your end.
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Mark Barnes said:
I'm currently re-uploading my own file to see if I get any problems.
My upload worked fine, so I don't really know what to suggest. Sorry.
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