Glacial Search Speed
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3.19 seconds. Pretty fast but as I said, I want the hit counts in just the OT so wouldn't have chosen this search.
Beta 6 should make an "Old Testament" or "Bible" search almost as fast as "All Passages". I would expect your 38.18 second search "Old Testament" to take around 3.5s with Beta 6. (The "Bible", and "Bible and Apocrypha" searches should run in this kind of time, too.)
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Why not?
In L3 I have often searched the whole Bible, even when I only wanted results in one book, because it was faster to do the full search and then scroll down to my desired location.
I have, too. Sometimes I want the hit counts. I want the number of times the word or phrase appears in whatever section I am interested in. I don't want to have to count them manually. That's why I do searches on specific sections, books, or even chapters.
This can be due to a number of factors, including whether or not you regularly defrag your hard drive, if you have Google Desktop (or MS indexing service) running in the background, how your anti-virus deals with file accessing, as well as a host of more esoteric hardware specifications, and background system services that may be running. These can be notoriously subtle to track down, let alone resolve.
You've given me some things to check. Sure would like to at least duplicate the speeds others are reporting in 4.0. Thanks, Rich.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Beta 6 should make an "Old Testament" or "Bible" search almost as fast as "All Passages". I would expect your 38.18 second search "Old Testament" to take around 3.5s with Beta 6. (The "Bible", and "Bible and Apocrypha" searches should run in this kind of time, too.)
Great. That is welcome news. Thanks for letting us know what's coming up.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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3.19 seconds. Pretty fast but as I said, I want the hit counts in just the OT so wouldn't have chosen this search.
Beta 6 should make an "Old Testament" or "Bible" search almost as fast as "All Passages". I would expect your 38.18 second search "Old Testament" to take around 3.5s with Beta 6. (The "Bible", and "Bible and Apocrypha" searches should run in this kind of time, too.)
[Y] Great news!
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
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3.19 seconds. Pretty fast but as I said, I want the hit counts in just the OT so wouldn't have chosen this search.
My search is faster but how come we have different search results in same resource?
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My search is faster but how come we have different search results in same resource?
Ebbe,
I guess it takes an extra 2.24 seconds to dig up those last 3 hits.
I'm kidding.
Very curious. Have to say I like your search speed results better than mine, though.
Wonder if Logos has an idea how the results could differ?
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Very curious. Have to say I like your search speed results better than mine, though.
Wonder if Logos has an idea how the results could differ?
It depends how you configure these options from the little arrow under the Search icon!
The tick gets 188. Remove it and you get 185!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Sorry it took so long for me to post - I was waiting to finish indexing [:)].
It took L4 a whopping 25.67 seconds to find 69 results.
Core 2 Duo P7570 2.0 GHz with 3GB RAM and Vista Business.
In Logos3 it took less than three seconds from the time I pushed the button but it only found 68 occurrences. This difference stems from the fact that
L4 found two occurrences in Lamentations (1:20; 2:11) that L3 did not.
L3 found Daniel 5:14 but L4 did not.
I think these differences in results is more disturbing than the speed with which it finds them, although why L4 is glacially slow needs to be addressed, of course. This is a good reason to keep both versions and run searches twice to be certain!
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L4 found two occurrences in Lamentations (1:20; 2:11) that L3 did not.
L3 found Daniel 5:14 but L4 did not.
I think these differences in results is more disturbing than the speed with which it finds them, although why L4 is glacially slow needs to be addressed, of course. This is a good reason to keep both versions and run searches twice to be certain!
Tom, I explained why this happens in the 3rd post on this page but I'll repeat and elaborate:-
The difference in results with your phrase search is because:-
v4 has 2 extra results in Lam1:20 & 2:11 because the footnote characters upset v3's separation algorithm whilst v4 works with actual word separation.
v3 has 1 extra result at Dan 5:14 "spirit of the gods" because of v3's separation algorithm (picking up the) AND because it defaults to a stemming search whilst v4 defaults to a nostem search (you ask for "god" and you won't get "gods" unless you check Match all word forms in the dropdown under the Search icon!).
The search for the phrase "my spirit" is a search for the individual words ie.
My BEFORE 1 word spirit
"My 1bspirit" in Lamentations causes v3's separation algorithm to think they are more than 1 word apart, whereas v4 knows that "my" and spirit" are adjacent, or exactly 1 word apart. If you run the query on Lamentations you will see that v3 does not find the phrase until you change the separation to 2 words! Anytime there is punctuation or footnote markers between words v3 can be fooled about their actual separation**.
** I've simplified the issues for v3, but the bottom line is that we finally have an exact phrase search with L4 and an exact word separation.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Thanks for the details Dave!! It looks like L4 is an improvement.
Tom0
