http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/7683?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LogosPrepubs+%28Logos+Pre-Publications%29Additional Information Title: The Reformation Study Bible Editor: R. C. Sproul Publisher: Ligonier, 2008
QUESTION:
How/Does this differ from a Libronix3 resource of same name that has been out for some time in a Nelson eBible set?
http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/7683?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LogosPrepubs+%28Logos+Pre-Publications%29 Additional InformationTitle: The Reformation Study BibleEditor: R. C. SproulPublisher: Ligonier, 2008 QUESTION: How/Does this differ from a Libronix3 resource of same name that has been out for some time in a Nelson eBible set?
http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/7683?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LogosPrepubs+%28Logos+Pre-Publications%29 Additional InformationTitle: The Reformation Study BibleEditor: R. C. SproulPublisher: Ligonier, 2008
I suspect it's just a minor update. The description says: "previously only available in the New King James translation, The Reformation Study Bible has been updated for compatibility with the readable and accurate English Standard Version". I have the Nelson version. Here's the publication info for it:
THE REFORMATION STUDY BIBLEBringing the Light of the Reformation to Scripture
New King James Version
Executive Director: Luder Whitlock, Jr.General Editor: R. C. SproulOld Testament Editor: Bruce WaltkeNew Testament Editor: Moisés Silva
Associate Editors:James BoiceEdmund ClowneyRoger NicoleJ. I. Packer
Assistant Editors:Willam B. EvansJohn Mason
Thomas Nelson PublishersNashville • Atlanta • London • Vancouver
The Reformation Study Bible TMCopyright 1995 by Foundation for Reformation
The Holy Bible, New King James VersionCopyright 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
The New King James Bible, New TestamentCopyright 1979 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.The New King James Bible, New Testament and PsalmsCopyright 1980 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
In-text MapsCopyright 1990 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.ChartsCopyright 1995 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
The Ligonier Ministries description page for this includes the text "This foundational resource was created by more than fifty scholars." I'm guessing they haven't changed the fundamental work of those scholars. Here's the list of scholars who put the original together, from inside my Nelson version of it:
General Editor
R. C. Sproul, Drs.
Ligonier Ministries
Bruce Waltke, Th.D., Ph.D.
Regent College
Moises Silva, Ph.D.
Westminster Theological Seminary
Luder Whitlock, Jr., D.Min.
Reformed Theological Seminary
James Boice, D.Th.
Tenth Presbyterian Church
Edmund Clowney, S.T.M., D.D.
Roger Nicole, Ph.D.
J. I. Packer, D.Phil.
William B. Evans, Ph.D. (cand.)
Erskine College
John Mason, Ph.D. (cand.)
Nashville Presbytery
Presbyterian Church in America
Schloss Mittersill Study Centre
Moore Theological College
Westminster Theological Seminary in California
Covenant Theological Seminary
Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary
Penn State University
Ontario Theological Seminary
Wycliffe Hall, Oxford
Biblical Theological Seminary
University of Stellenbosch
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School
Wycliffe College
Cheltenham and Gloucester College of Higher Education
Providence, RI
Ridley College
The Beeson Divinity School
Western Kentucky University
Wondered this myself when I saw the announcement. All I can find is that the new pub comes from Ligonier and is keyed to the ESV text, copyright 2008. The original pub was keyed to the NKJV and originally was known as the New Geneva Bible and published by Nelson, copyright 1995.
Here's the blurb I found:
I compared the sample pdfs at: http://www.ligonier.org/reformation-study-bible/sample-chapters/ to the older Nelson offering. Except for changing the bold words quoted from scripture to conform to the ESV translation I could find no differences in content.
The text at the bottom of this page seems to indicate that 'porting' to the ESV is the only difference in editions: http://www.ligonier.org/reformation-study-bible/about/
QUESTION: How/Does this differ from a Libronix3 resource of same name that has been out for some time in a Nelson eBible set?
Good question. First there was a "New Geneva Study Bible" (I purchased this one in black genuine leather for my church Bible. Later there was a republication (I believe the content was the same) but the title was now "Reformation Study Bible." Both of those publications preceded this current publication.
When we read the product description we see it is intended as a revision aligned with the ESV. Careful reading of the page reveals it does not contain the ESV translation, only the study Bible notes.This is commonly the way Logos handles study Bible notes.
My question is: How/Does this differ from a Libronix3 resource of same name that has been out for some time in a Nelson eBible set?
clarification of the question: Since ALL study notes appear to interact with any Bible translation, what difference does it make having an ESV based notes package over a NKJV based notes package when neither contain a Bible transalation? (all within the Logos software, of course)
(wait a minute! [:P] That question sounds very similar to yours...) Maybe someone in the Pre-Pub department can explain why we need this resource if we already have the other Libronix 3 resource.
This forum might help: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/11048.aspx
The reformation study Bible is no longer available for purchase but used to be available through eBible Expanded Edition (and there are still some eBible packages floating around).
Now it looks like Logos is getting rights to it (instead of Thomas Nelson) and publishing their own (updated?) version.
Maybe someone in the Pre-Pub department can explain why we need this resource if we already have the other Libronix 3 resource.
So I guess the answer is: "Yes" , this is for those who "missed" it the first time round?
But why "pre-pub"?
Especially, as this, like the other "study" Bibles, only contains the Notes?
Why not just a "link" etc?
Partly to gauge interest, partly to give people a second chance to get it at a nice price, and partly because it is indeed a new resource, not just a copy of the Notes from Libronix. Everywhere in the notes where it quotes bits of a Bible verse, that text has now been updated to ESV instead of NKJV. And probably Logos is doing their own editing pass on it (retagging and such) before republishing it. So while it probably won't take as long as some other prepubs to get into production, I can see why it's going through the pre-pub process.
Everywhere in the notes where it quotes bits of a Bible verse, that text has now been updated to ESV instead of NKJV.
Thanks Rosie.
But why "pre-pub"? Partly to gauge interest, partly to give people a second chance to get it at a nice price, and partly because it is indeed a new resource, not just a copy of the Notes from Libronix. Everywhere in the notes where it quotes bits of a Bible verse, that text has now been updated to ESV instead of NKJV. And probably Logos is doing their own editing pass on it (retagging and such) before republishing it. So while it probably won't take as long as some other prepubs to get into production, I can see why it's going through the pre-pub process.
Additional information:
http://www.ligonier.org/reformation-study-bible/
http://www.ligonier.org/reformation-study-bible/about/
Robert
Edit: Mark, missed your links.
I called Ligonier Ministries. They said that the ESV version contains the same theological articles, maps etc.... The only difference is that the notes have been adapted to the ESV text
Mark
