New Interpreter's Bible Publications

Fred

I would love to see the "New Interpreter's Bible" publications available as Logos resources.

Some of the current versions include:

- New Interpreter's Bible on CD-ROM - The Complete 12 Volume Set.

- New Interpreter's Study Bible on CD ROM - (a ~much~ smaller version of the above).

- New Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible CD-ROM.

- New Interpreter's Bible One-Volume Commentary (only in a dead trees version, I believe).

The current electronic ("CD-ROM") versions have two disadvantages:

1. They use a "Folio" format (which, to me, sort of seems like a Libronix type of electronic library system, but much weaker in functionality).

2. In order to use the CD-ROM products, the CD-ROM ~MUST~ be in the CD-ROM drive - the programs cannot be run directly from a hard drive (a rather lame licensing safeguard, I assume).

Certainly, if Logos and Abingdon Press could get together and come up with Logos versions of the New Interpreter's publications, it would make for a ~HUGE~ improvement in usability.

Thanks for listening.

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George Somsel

I would love to see the "New Interpreter's Bible" publications available as Logos resources.

That isn't likely to happen until and unless Abingdon-Cokesbury abandons the Folios format as was the case with Zondervan and its proprietary format, Pradis.

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/123782#Comment_123782

I would love to see the "New Interpreter's Bible" publications available as Logos resources.

That isn't likely to happen until and unless Abingdon-Cokesbury abandons the Folios format as was the case with Zondervan and its proprietary format, Pradis.

I understand, George. That's why I offered "if Logos and Abingdon Press could get together [...]". It did take, I guess, quite a long time for Zondervan to see the advantages of licensing Logos versions, but they eventually did, so maybe Abingdon might eventually do so, too... (?)

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/123789#Comment_123789

Actually, Abingdon wouldn't have to ~abandon~ the proprietary format - it could still market the New Interpreter's publications that way, and also have access to the Logos market... (Isn't that what Zondevn did, or is the Pradis format now "extinct"?)

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/123809#Comment_123809

Actually, Abingdon wouldn't have to ~abandon~ the proprietary format - it could still market the New Interpreter's publications that way, and also have access to the Logos market... (Isn't that what Zondevn did, or is the Pradis format now "extinct"?)

Can you say "Dodo bird"?

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/123815#Comment_123815

Ooh - yes, that is indeed "extinct". [:)]

Still, it would be possible, I would think, for Abingdon to continue marketing its "own" format (just as it continues to market its dead trees format), and yet also gain from Logos sales.

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/123831#Comment_123831

Regardless of the difficulty, I would like to see the Interpreters Bible material available in LOGOS.

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/123842#Comment_123842

Regardless of the difficulty, I would like to see the Interpreters Bible material available in LOGOS.

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SOTIRIS BOUKIS

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/123854#Comment_123854

I fully agree as well. This series should definitely be included in Logos Library as well.

Dan Francis

The folio software has already been abandoned by them, the dictionary uses a internet explorer interface that is practically useless. yes you can read it but it's slow to respond and you can not annotate or high light anything. I don't mind the folio interface but after having purchased the items I really don't want to have to pay for them all over again (I called Logos asking about the Interpretation series and was told if it goes into production there would be no way to upgrade to the Logos format, which means I will never get it. If Logos expects to get people to buy items again at full cost they are out of their mind. I do realize if the publishers do not allow for cross-grades options there is nothing they can really do, but I am happy to use my folio on my windows sub system. It's blazingly fast, and works well enough.

-Dan

Dan Francis

I 2. In order to use the CD-ROM products, the CD-ROM ~MUST~ be in the CD-ROM drive - the programs cannot be run directly from a hard drive (a rather lame licensing safeguard, I assume).

Do what I did and download Magic disk, it;s free and make iso of the disc, i use NISB NIB IBL and Interpretation. works wonderful and no need for the discs.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/187162#Comment_187162

NFONAME.SUP will have to be modified in a similar way to this.. note i use the Interpretation infobase directly as it is not bound to the disc.

[Master Infobase Directory]NIB Complete=I:\NIBall.NFONRSV=I:\nrsvlibr.nfoNAB=I:\nab.nfoNIV=I:\niv.nfoThe Interpreter's Bible=H:\ibidb.nfoRSV=H:\rsv.nfoKJV=H:\kjv.nfoNISBNRSV=G:\NISBNRSV.nfoNISB=G:\NISBCommentary.nfoNISB Notes=G:\NISBCommentary.nfoIDB=G:\NISBNRSV.nfo
[Infobase Directory]Folio 4 Help Infobase=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\nfo\foliohlp.nfoFolio Views 4 Getting Started=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\nfo\foliohlp.nfoAbingdon / Folio Views Help=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\nfo\foliohlp.nfoFolio Help=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\nfo\foliohlp.nfo(Shadow) NIB Complete=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\NIBall.sdw(Shadow) NRSV=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\NRSVlibr.sdw(Shadow) NAB=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\nab.sdw(Shadow) NIV=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\niv.sdw(Shadow) The Interpreter's Bible=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\ibidb.sdw(Shadow) RSV=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\RSV.SDW(Shadow) KJV=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\kjv.sdw(Shadow) NISBNRSV=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\NISBNRSV.sdw(Shadow) NISB=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\NISB.sdw(Shadow) NISB Notes=C:\Program Files\Abingdon\NFO\NISB.sdw

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/187162#Comment_187162

I 2. In order to use the CD-ROM products, the CD-ROM ~MUST~ be in the CD-ROM drive - the programs cannot be run directly from a hard drive (a rather lame licensing safeguard, I assume).

Do what I did and download Magic disk, it;s free and make iso of the disc, i use NISB NIB IBL and Interpretation. works wonderful and no need for the discs.

Thanks, Daniel, for that tip - I did use MagicDisc (freeware) to successfully run the NIB from my hard drive. Still the clunky Folio interface, of course, but it is worth it (to me) to get the NIB commentaries. (It was not, however, worth carrying around the NIB CD otherwise.)

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/187169#Comment_187169

NFONAME.SUP will have to be modified in a similar way to this.. note i use the Interpretation infobase directly as it is not bound to the disc.

Since I didn't already have the NIB installed on my current laptop (because of the "forced data files stuck on CD only" annoyance), I used MagicDisc to mount the CD on my hard drive, and then I ran the NIB install program right from there, and the NIB app points to that hard drive location automatically already - i.e, I did not have to modify any file(s) to have it do so.

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/187160#Comment_187160

The folio software has already been abandoned by them, the dictionary uses a internet explorer interface that is practically useless. yes you can read it but it's slow to respond and you can not annotate or high light anything. I don't mind the folio interface but after having purchased the items I really don't want to have to pay for them all over again (I called Logos asking about the Interpretation series and was told if it goes into production there would be no way to upgrade to the Logos format, which means I will never get it. If Logos expects to get people to buy items again at full cost they are out of their mind. I do realize if the publishers do not allow for cross-grades options there is nothing they can really do, but I am happy to use my folio on my windows sub system. It's blazingly fast, and works well enough.

Well, I can now run the NIB from my laptop without carrying around the NIB CD, and it does indeed run speedily from the hard drive - thanks to MagicDisk and to your tip, Daniel. However, if any of the "New Interpreter's Bible" publications became available in Logos format, I would consider trying to obtain it/them in a heartbeat. To interface the NIB through Logos (as opposed to the Folio interface) would be well worth it (assuming that the cost was not totally unreasonble, of course).

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/187253#Comment_187253

I agree with you, a Logos version is my preference. Unfortunately I fear that the cost will be whatever Logos is charging for the full version. Very few have had an cross-grade path.

-Dan

Fred

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/187336#Comment_187336

I agree with you, a Logos version is my preference. Unfortunately I fear that the cost will be whatever Logos is charging for the full version. Very few have had an cross-grade path.

Well, maybe there will be prepub offerings... (?)

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/187466#Comment_187466

I agree with you, a Logos version is my preference. Unfortunately I fear that the cost will be whatever Logos is charging for the full version. Very few have had an cross-grade path.

Well, maybe there will be prepub offerings... (?)

Well the prepub offering for Interpretation is 699 while you can get the CDROM of the cokesbury sight for 636... Now I admit Logos version is worth the extra money but buying a second set for MORE than it would cost to replace the original CDROM... I don't think so.... If I could get an upgrade sending my old CD to them for a couple hundred I would go for it.... Other Bible software publishers will do that... Word Search offers cross-grades for 10-15% of the price, and I could live with that. like i said I would be happy to go as high as 30%. But 110% on prepub to get my files in Logos is not something I will ever consider.

-Dan