Search Analysis differences between Windows and MAC

I know the MAC version is still developing, but I wanted to bring a difference to your awareness regarding the new Search Analysis view. In the Windows version, when you do a Morph search and use Analysis view then drag the Lemma column into the header it shows if you right click on the column heading and Collapse All you get a list that includes the Lemma, a pronounce icon, the English Gloss and the number of occurrences. See attached screen capture:

This is a great tool. But in the MAC version all you get is a dash and the number of occurrences. It doesn't list the Greek Lemma (even though the list is being grouped by lemma). This makes it very difficult to view the results and see similar words or patterns. See screen capture:

Is this function under development? Even if just the lemma and English gloss were added here it would be much more beneficial. Will this functionality match the Windows version in the future?

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Alan Macgregor

Michael

I tried to replicate your results but my morph search seems to have worked properly.

I think that this is how it's meant to work. Admittedly I can't drag the Lemma header up to group; I can only drag it left or right.

I'm assuming that you are using the latest version Logos Bible Software 4.0b (4.10.4.7689)

Every blessing

Alan

Alan Macgregor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/197761#Comment_197761

Michael, I managed the drag and replicated your results exactly.

I trust that the developers will be adding the functionality that we would want. I know that the aim is to have Windows and Mac functionality the same.

Every blessing

Alan

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/197766#Comment_197766

I tried to replicate this in order to learn more about the Analysis view (which I've hardly used so far) and I finally managed to figure out how to get the lemma into the heading (thanks, Alan, for your first screenshot! My window didn't say anything about option-click!). But now I'm wondering:

a) How do I switch between sorting by frequency and by alphabetical order; and between sorting by ascending order and declining order? I must be really stupid today: I've even managed to do it, but I still can't figure it out...

b) This seems a bit wrong. To the best of my knowledge rho does not come after omega in the alphabet.

c) This seems even more wrong. [ is not a verb. The actual verb erchomai is missing in both Result and Context columns. And it does not belong before agagein.

d) Note that the Greek is visible in collapsed view when Result is chosen in the heading! And if you put L-N in the heading the numbers show. That nothing shows with Lemma must, hopefully, be a simple oversight, or a bug.

(The search was done for @V in John in UBS.)

Michael Hite

Thanks guys. I mostly wanted to confirm that this result from others. I wanted to bring it to attention. Thanks for looking.

Alan

Patrick S.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/197822#Comment_197822

a) How do I switch between [...] sorting by ascending order and declining order?

Click on the column header 'button' showing in the group by section at top. Clicking on it cycles between — unsorted, ascending, and then descending — views.

d) Note that the Greek is visible in collapsed view when Result is chosen in the heading! And if you put L-N in the heading the numbers show. That nothing shows with Lemma must, hopefully, be a simple oversight, or a bug.

(The search was done for @V in John in UBS.)

That is because you were doing analysis on Greek text. If user is doing analysis on translated Bible (NIV, ESV etc.) and chooses Lemma it does not show the Greek word, if one chooses other column (for example Case or Gender) it does show the value in the group header.

It's a bug.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/198021#Comment_198021

Click on the column header 'button' showing in the group by section at top. Clicking on it cycles between — unsorted, ascending, and then descending — views.

I guess my problem was that it's so incredibly slow that it's hard to figure if anything is happening at all. At least on my computer I have to wait several seconds after clicking before I even get a beach ball. And sometimes nothing happens at all. Consequently I clicked several times in a row, and, not surprisingly, couldn't figure out any pattern whatsoever in what happened.

The order, though, seems to me to be alpha-omega > omega-alpha > descending frequency.