The Harvard Classics looks so cool, but...
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You ≠ you dad's college roommate.
Granted, it would be a waste of money to purchase and never read. So would you have the discipline to read these books on a screen? Would you want to read enough of them to justify purchasing a bundle instead of purchasing the individual books that interest you? If you answer yes, buy the set, if no, then spend your money on something you will use.Prov. 15:23
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I keep thinking about getting this, not so much to sit and read, but for references, and quotes. And the pre-pub price is less than a used hardcover set.
There is a reading guide available here.
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Sam Shaw said:
They look so cool, but my dad said his college roommate bought the physical set but never read any of it. I guess greatness ≠ interesting, although I was kinda hoping it would. I'm now a little discouraged.
My sister bought and read the physical set.
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MJ. Smith said:
My sister bought and read the physical set.
I've have read most of them over the last "undisclosed" years, and thanks to the "World Wide Web" most can be researched via Google, so having to reach for one on the shelf to get a quote isn't necessary. But having them in Logos, with the quick search, would be a benefit. It's really just a matter of justifying the cost...
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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upon a ironic moment in my life.The main reason I'm thinking about this
resource (as well as one of the main reasons I use Logos) is the
ability to have what I need in one program, and not have to leave the
software to do research or something else.Which seems to be in direct contrast to
Logos' position on turning on the spell checker in L4 “Logos has
not wanted to build all the functions of a word processor, of which
there are many good ones, into the Notes function.”"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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I would love to see enough orders move this set into production. There are some books that I would try to read in their entirety, but I would mostly use them for references and quotes as someone else stated above. For me it is definitely worth the cost.
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They do seem to have moved into production.
I signed up for these the first day or so and was surprised to see that they did not moved quickly into production. I expect to read some of these and be glad to have the rest 'in case.' Even at the new pre-pub price they are a pretty good bargain.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Kevin Becker said:
Granted, it would be a waste of money to purchase and never read. So would you have the discipline to read these books on a screen?
That might be the one thing that would stop me. I'm not very disciplined, which means I should probably invest in Disciplines of a Godly Man first! And/or pray to God—yeah, that would probably work better.
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Sam Shaw said:
They look so cool, but my dad said his college roommate bought the physical set but never read any of it. I guess greatness ≠ interesting, although I was kinda hoping it would. I'm now a little discouraged.
There are a lot of Bibles across America that just gather dust on the shelf too. Just because your Dad's roommate had no interest in the Harvard Classics doesn't mean the content is dry, boring or worthless. Maybe they had a Magnavox Pong video console in their dorm room. They were so much cooler than reading you know.
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Kevin Becker said:
So would you have the discipline to read these books on a screen?
If tablet PCs and Apples continue to develop and be refined, I think reading books like this do become more and more of an option. At least that is what I am hoping!!!
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Donovan R. Palmer said:Kevin Becker said:
So would you have the discipline to read these books on a screen?
If tablet PCs and Apples continue to develop and be refined, I think reading books like this do become more and more of an option. At least that is what I am hoping!!!
The problem that I have with reading on a PC is that I keep thinking that I should be working on something when I'm at a keyboard. Bible studies to do, emails come in, banking to get caught up on, forums to read and reply to, etc...
I wonder if a Tablet would lend itself to reading, knowing that all these distraction can still be accomplished on one?
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Paul Golder said:
I wonder if a Tablet would lend itself to reading, knowing that all these distraction can still be accomplished on one?
I'm not sure how to answer this. However, the link that Bob posted recently on the Sports Illustrated Demo is a possible glimpse into the future. http://michaelhyatt.com/2009/12/the-end-of-book-publishing-as-we-know-it.html
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
I'm not sure how to answer this. However, the link that Bob posted recently on the Sports Illustrated Demo is a possible glimpse into the future. http://michaelhyatt.com/2009/12/the-end-of-book-publishing-as-we-know-it.html
Quoting Bob "People will be reading more than ever"
I hope this is true, I miss the day when you could go to work and talk to others about what everyone read in the paper last night.
I still wonder about a machine that can do too much, keeping people form accomplishing a simple thing like reading. This I feel is where a device like the Kindle shines, all you do with it is read, no worries about an icon popping up and telling you that you have an email / call / message. Or thinking about that sermon (or anything) that needs finishing, only a few finger presses away.
There is one thing to be sure of, as Logos proves, change is coming...
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Paul Golder said:
Quoting Bob "People will be reading more than ever"
I think this is on the presupposition that by removing delivery barriers, people will read more. I think they will read more, but your point is well taken, is it quality and focused reading?
A number of my friends do not read books any more. Yet, if I look at their lifestyles, they spend hours in front of the computer. They are reading blogs, websites, etc. Even when they do this, they are being distracted. How many people do you know have at least six ways to receive communications? (email accounts, IM, micro blogging, social media, etc) I read an article recently that people are actually more on information overload than ever and don't know it, simply because they don't just have one email account anymore where they can gauge the amount of communications coming at them.
You are completely correct, change is coming...
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The Harvard Classics and Fiction Collection (71 Vols.) more commonly known as “The Five-Foot Shelf,”
Vol. 14: Don Quixote, Part 1, Cervantes
The First Part of the Delightful History of the Most Ingenious Knight, Don Quixote of the Mancha, by Miguel de Cervantes
(Charles W. Eliot chose not to include the second part of Don Quixote in the Harvard Fiction collection)
Could we drum up some support to have LOGOS include the second part?
Also Vol. 16: The Thousand and One Nights
Benefits of the Logos Bible Software Edition (…) Whether you are a (…) seasoned pastor
Please post your sermon using quotes from vol 16
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David Ames said:
The Harvard Classics and Fiction Collection (71 Vols.)
http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/3661
There are many resources published in Logos that on the surface have no relation to the study of the Bible and the preparation and delivery of sermons.
Your point is well taken. I would agree having complete, unabridged works is the ideal way to go. But when dealing with a classic collection it is of historical value to keep the set as true to the original content as possible while maintaining the namesake. Dr Elliott was trying to offer the average reader a broad education in 15 minutes a day. Other reading lists I would welcome in Logos are some of the other compilations attempting to lay claim as THE Western Canon (and they have already been discussed in other threads.) Wikipedia has several under the "Western Canon" article. MJ has also suggested an Eastern Canon (--we are not talking strictly church here.)David Ames said:Could we drum up some support to have LOGOS include the second part?
Logos also offers historical collections that could be beneficial to nationalist specific audiences: The Christian History Library http://www.logos.com/products/details/3525David Ames said:Please post your sermon using quotes from vol 16
I was ready to take up your challenge for a useful example of 1001 Arabian Nights in a sermon illustration. My example was to be "The Appointment in Samarra" and I thought it was part of Burton's retelling. It is not. We will have to settle for the benefits of a liberal education unless someone else offers their sermon ideas. [:^)]
David Ames said:Benefits of the Logos Bible Software Edition (…)
I have had Harvard Classics & Fiction on Pre-Pub since 04/18/2008. If it were already in my resources, I could have searched and known immediately "The Appointment" was not one of the tales. [:O] Parents who school their own children could use Harvard Classics to give their children a classical education that surpasses many colleges.
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Matthew C Jones said:
I have had Harvard Classics & Fiction on Pre-Pub since 04/18/2008
It looks like your wait will end at 1,421,280 minutes, on the last day of 2010. [:D]
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Paul Golder said:Matthew C Jones said:
I have had Harvard Classics & Fiction on Pre-Pub since 04/18/2008
It looks like your wait will end at 1,421,280 minutes, on the last day of 2010.
Thanks for figuring how long the wait was. I felt every second of it.
It will be nice. I hope everyone else will consider what a good deal the Pre-Pub price is.
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Regretfully, I had to opt out...it was either put a working roof on over my computer or books in it. Sadly, I chose the roof.
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No doubt a few have read all volumes, but that is rather rare. In fact, most people who buy the physical sets do not read much of it.
They can be picked up very cheaply as a result. I paid $25 for the entire set. Two or three volumes show evidence of being read - one of them read quite a bit.
I bought them a year ago, and I fully intend to read some of it, but haven't had time yet.
You could search for quotes in the Logos version - that is true. That would be a good use. I can't imagine anyone reading the books on a computer, but searching for quotes - yes. Still, you could probably find most of the quotes on google.
Me, I love books and find them nearly impossible to resist. Even if it is unlikely I will ever use them. It's called an addiction, and I have it. However, this set I can resist. At least I can get by with a $25 fix for the book copies.
I really don't get the point of this one. Are there really no commentaries, or other resources which you would use that you could buy with the same money?
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Michael Childs said:
I really don't get the point of this one. Are there really no commentaries, or other resources which you would use that you could buy with the same money?
"The Importance of Literature
Literature gives us insight into the human condition: the commonality of events that occur in our lives; emotions that we all feel; and the things that give our existence meaning. In addition to making us think about human experiences, literature provokes emotional responses in us and can provide catharsis. Literature also gives us a shared vocabulary of stories that we can use as a frame of reference when discussing our own experiences and those of others.
Literature provides more mundane benefits, as well. Reading well-written books can help us learn how to write a good story, teach us new vocabulary, and even offer examples of correct spelling and punctuation. Social historians can also learn about everyday life from descriptions of objects, practices, and events in literature. "~ Alexis Vega-Singer
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Michael Childs said:
Me, I love books and find them nearly impossible to resist. Even if it is unlikely I will ever use them. It's called an addiction, and I have it. However, this set I can resist. At least I can get by with a $25 fix for the book copies.
I'm with you, Michael. That's been my thought about the Harvard Classics all along. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled. Hope I can find a deal like you did.
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Paul Golder said:
Literature gives us insight into the human condition
Paul,
You misunderstand me. I do not question the value of literature. I certainly agree wholeheartedly with you on that. I read great literature daily. I love the classics. I say, "Read two old books for every new book that you read."
However, I am not convinced that the computer screen is really the place to read literature. A Kindle or other eBook reader, yes, but not a computer screen. I had rather pick up the book copies of the Harvard Classics for $25 to $50 at an estate sale. There are lots of them available. For me the Harvard Classics would not be a good use of the money I have to buy Logos resources. I would bet there are going to be some resources made available in the 12 Days of Logos that would be a better use of $130 for me. The Logos Harvard Classics may well be great for others. We are all different.
Also, remember the Harvard Classics is but a survey of literature, and some of the selections and omissions - well, they are not so good. This is especially true in the area of fiction. There are other collections that are equally good or better. The Harvard Classics is one turn of the century man's opinion of what was the best of classics.
Also, as one man said, the main reason for the existence of the Harvard Classics was "as a way for Collier's Publishing to make money off of free content by selling it as status to people like my great-grandfather."
I guess I still don't get it. But for those of you who do, enjoy the Logos edition of Harvard Classics. I will enjoy the Logos resources I buy, too. And I will read my book copy of the Harvard Classics. If I need to search them, I will have to search the pdf files from Project Gutenberg.
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Michael Childs said:
If I need to search them, I will have to search the pdf files from Project Gutenberg.
Actually, bartleby.com has a search interface for the HC that works well. Easier than downloading a bunch of PDFs.
I would have purchased the Harvard classics to have access to them when I'm not online (It's easier to study when not connected to the web). Unfortunately finances say no.
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Michael Childs said:
For me the Harvard Classics would not be a good use of the money I have to buy Logos resources. I would bet there are going to be some resources made available in the 12 Days of Logos that would be a better use of $130 for me.
I revisit this question several times a year. (The broader question of comparative purchasing, that is.) While I have no interest at all in golfing, I do not begrudge those who do. I'd rather buy another Logos resource than a set of clubs. But I had to make a hard decision between my guitar collection and a bigger Logos library because I really like both. My wife is happy Logos won out because it is hard to store 28 guitars in a laptop.
If we fragile humans were able to focus on the most important, all the time, and without waver, our libraries, homes and recreation would be a lot less cluttered and a lot more productive. But our Creator knew we are easily distracted and provided a plethora of wholesome activities to facilitate an occasional break to refresh. Going through my daily activities it is easy to get depressed with the shallowness and lack of purpose displayed in society around me. Touching base with intellect and artistry of fellow humans is a great encouragement. Harvard Classics is a way to do that.
Michael Childs said:Also, remember the Harvard Classics is but a survey of literature, and some of the selections and omissions - well, they are not so good. This is especially true in the area of fiction. There are other collections that are equally good or better. The Harvard Classics is one turn of the century man's opinion of what was the best of classics.
Incidentally, the Harvard Classics is valuable to me for it's Judeo-Christian foundation. I also like Britannica's Great Books but realize it is a Humanistic perspective of Western Civilization. Then there is Eastern thought and many aboriginal cultures outside of any box. I have encountered people from many cultures and while I prefer some cultures over others I am happy to know mankind everywhere is thinking, questioning and searching for purpose.
Michael Childs said:Also, as one man said, the main reason for the existence of the Harvard Classics was "as a way for Collier's Publishing to make money off of free content by selling it as status to people like my great-grandfather."
[6] could, not, resist: Some say Logos only exists to make money selling free resources to us as a status symbol. But I much prefer Harvard Classics and similar contents over romance novels, westerns, Sci-Fi and syndicated serials. And I much prefer Logos' offerings over Hollywood.
Michael Childs said:However, I am not convinced that the computer screen is really the place to read literature.
Once again, my wife is happy I have adopted this skill. I enjoy holding a good book and turning pages. But I store uncounted thousands of books on the tiny hard drive. My physical book collection is shrinking monthly and my house is getting larger! Dr. Eliot offers us a well rounded, yet manageable, collection. It is a good addition to my Logos library. ~~signed, "A guy who never met a bad addition to his Logos library."
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Michael Childs said:
You misunderstand me.
Understood [Y]
Michael Childs said:I am not convinced that the computer screen is really the place to read literature.
Agreed, but there is the ipad/pod/phone.
Michael Childs said:as a way for Collier's Publishing to make money
I can hear the echos of the salesman now: "You don't want your children to be deprived..."
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Paul Golder said:Michael Childs said:
as a way for Collier's Publishing to make money
I can hear the echos of the salesman now: "You don't want your children to be deprived..."
[6] That is an easy one to answer. Just tell them, "Yes, I do want to deprive my children!" [6]
Really tho, When I survey the my list of resource purchases, I can say there have been many good ones, many great ones, and some I forgot I even bought. My hardback library is the same. Certain titles I paid a premium for but now see I don't value them highly anymore. Their content remains the same but my curiosity has moved on.
Whether or not people buy the Harvard Classics, it's release is good news for everyone. It shows there is a reason to hope Barnes Notes may someday be in my Logos library. And with enough sleigh-bells ringing, The Samaritan Pentateuch will find it's way into the Community Pricing program.
fyi: I placed The Harvard Classics & Fiction on my Orders list April 18, 2008.
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Matthew C Jones said:
placed The Harvard Classics & Fiction on my Orders list April 18, 2008.
Matthew,
It will surely be a blessing to you. I admire your skill of reading literature on the computer. I just can't do it. (However, I love my Kindle, and I love paper books. Since I have the paper books, I will be blessed by them too.)
With my budget, to buy one resource is to not buy another. So I have to carefully weigh my Logos options. Sometimes finances force me to go with used paper books for literature.
It is a great collection, no doubt. Thanks for helping me "get it".
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Michael Childs said:
However, I love my Kindle
Another consideration: copy and paste the volume you would like to read from Logos into Word, save as PDF, and load on Kindle.
( this of course, is ignoring the fact that most of the works are readily accessible in PDF already... [:)] )
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I had the Harvard Classics in my cart when pre-pub was $99 and later removed it. I put it back a few months ago, prepub at $129 or whatever. I removed it again, just a few weeks ago. I'm not much on reading through books on my computer. Perhaps I'm too distracted with other things. Instead of buying the Harvard Classics, I bought a Kindle 3 for the primary purpose of reading classical literature and public domain theological/devotional works. As has been said above, we have to make choices. Opportunity costs usually come into play.
But Matthew, 28 guitars? [:D] I have two, and my wife says I can play only one at a time! To my wife's certain question if I get a third one I will respond, "But honey, Matthew has 28!" [;)]
Or do you mean you would have 28 guitars were it not for Logos? Don't mess up my response to my wife!
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Bill Moore said:
"But honey, Matthew has 28!"
Sorry Bill. You can't use that excuse anymore. I am down to two (or is it three?) The others have gone on to greener pastures:
- one is featured in 30+ Utube videos
- one is in a movie
- one is owned by a famous Canadian musician
- another by a star in Argentina
- My autographed Queen & Supertramp Strats hang in an English castle.
While I never made it big, many of my guitars have.
I would probably still have all of them hanging on my walls if Logos had not offered a better place to spend my money.
Bill Moore said:I have two, and my wife says I can play only one at a time!
Generally that is true, unless you can play like my friend Edgar Cruz. Check it out.
Even us poor chaps can buy Logos if we are willing to part with the other stuff. [:D]
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Well, good for you, Matthew, even if you did sink my "reasoning."
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Matthew C Jones said:
I am down to two (or is it three?) The others have gone on to greener pastures:
- one is featured in 30+ Utube videos
- one is in a movie
- one is owned by a famous Canadian musician
- another by a star in Argentina
- My autographed Queen & Supertramp Strats hang in an English castle.
While I never made it big, many of my guitars have.
Impressive! You're reminding me of my favorite clip from Spinal Tap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4udCtOLrlcQ
Matthew C Jones said:Generally that is true, unless you can play like my friend Edgar Cruz. Check it out.
Wow, that's pretty funky!
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Rosie Perera said:Matthew C Jones said:
Generally that is true, unless you can play like my friend Edgar Cruz. Check it out.
Wow, that's pretty funky!
It is called a harp guitar. I would say "it is a guitar re-imagined " but that may be a registered trademark of Logos, so I won't say it. [:#] Only thing stranger I've seen is a hurdy gurdy.
back on topic.... Look a little closer at the content of Harvard Classics. Here are some I find worthwhile:
- The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
- The Confessions of St. Augustine
- The Imitation of Christ, by Thomas á Kempis
- An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, by Adam Smith
- The Origin of Species, by Charles Darwin
- The Pilgrim's Progress, by John Bunyan
- The Lives of John Donne and George Herbert, by Izaak Walton
- Aesop’s Fables
- Household Tales, by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
- Tales, by Hans Christian Andersen
- The Divine Comedy, by Dante Alighieri
- Scientific Papers: Physics, Chemistry, Astronomy, Geology
- Voyages and Travels: Ancient and Modern
- American Historical Documents: 1000-1904
- Thoughts, Letters, Minor Works, by Blaise Pascal
These three alone, from Vol. 44 & 45: Complete Sacred Writings, are worth the most of the Pre-Pub price:
- Confucian: The Sayings of Confucius
- Buddhist: Writings
- Hindu: The Bhagavad-Gita
I am afraid a lot of people will miss out and the price will jump significantly upon shipment.
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Matthew C Jones said:
back on topic.... Look a little closer at the content of Harvard Classics. Here are some I find worthwhile:
- The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
- The Confessions of St. Augustine
- The Imitation of Christ, by Thomas á Kempis
- An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, by Adam Smith
- The Origin of Species, by Charles Darwin
- The Pilgrim's Progress, by John Bunyan
- The Lives of John Donne and George Herbert, by Izaak Walton
- Aesop’s Fables
- Household Tales, by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
- Tales, by Hans Christian Andersen
- The Divine Comedy, by Dante Alighieri
- Scientific Papers: Physics, Chemistry, Astronomy, Geology
- Voyages and Travels: Ancient and Modern
- American Historical Documents: 1000-1904
- Thoughts, Letters, Minor Works, by Blaise Pascal
Here are some others that I would find worthwhile:
- The Journal of John Woolman (he was an itinerant Quaker preacher, and his Journal is a classic; I have Quaker heritage on my dad's side and would love to read this)
- The Apology, Phædo and Crito, by Plato (I read the Apology once and was amazed at the parallels between it and Jesus' trial; not that Socrates was a Jesus figure by any means; of course Jesus was unique being God; but it still was fascinating to see what he was up against, innocent and falsely accused; I guess it's the same in every age, and often the good ones who are falsely accused go like lambs to the slaughter)
- The Complete Poems of John Milton (his sonnets are wonderful! "On His Blindness" -- aka "When I consider how my light is spent" -- is probably the best known; it ends with that famous line: "They also serve who only stand and wait.")
- Oedipus the King, Antigone, by Sophocles (always wanted to read some Greek plays; Sophocles is one of the greatest)
- Plutarch’s Lives (a famous biographer, and his biographies of some famous people are included: e.g., Pericles, Coriolanus, Demosthenes, Cicero, Caesar, Antony)
- Virgil’s Aeneid (I've read it already, but it would be good to have it in Logos)
- Don Quixote (ditto; too bad it's only Part I)
- Stories from the Thousand and One Nights (aka Arabian Nights; another literary classic, one from another culture I don't know very well -- the Middle East; I'm familiar with two of the stories which are most known in the West -- "Aladdin's Wonderful Lamp" and "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves" -- but I'm sure I would enjoy reading some of the others, and perhaps it would help me understand the Middle Eastern mindset better)
- Faust, Part I, Egmont, Hermann and Dorothea, by J. W. von Goethe (one of the two great tellings of the Faust story; so much a part of our Western consciousness -- we talk about a Faustian bargain, selling one's soul to the devil, etc.; I've never actually read the story and would like to)
- Dr. Faustus, by Christopher Marlowe (the other one)
- The Odyssey of Homer (I've read it before, but this is one of those great books that you can't ever read too many times)
- Essays: English and American (there are some important ones in there, such as John Henry Newman's "The Idea of a University"; see the entire Table of Contents of this volume here)
- Discourse on Method, by René Descartes (I'm a bit of a philosophy dabbler, having taking a course on "A Christian Perspective on the History of Philosophy" in seminary, which was fascinating to me)
- Of Man, Being the First Part of Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes (ditto; too bad it doesn't include the whole of Leviathan)
- Three Dialogues Between Hylas and Philonous in Opposition to Sceptics and Atheists, by George Berkeley
- An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, by David Hume
- Complete English Poetry: Chaucer to Whitman (might not read it on the screen, but great to have it all in one place for searching and quoting from)
- Crime and Punishment, by Fyodor Dostoevsky (after The Brothers Karamazov, which I've already read, this is probably his next greatest work, or maybe The Idiot is). In any event, I've been wanting to read more of him.
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Bill Moore said:
Well, good for you, Matthew, even if you did sink my "reasoning."
I might be able to help you get to 6! Well the logic worked for me with my wife but she does sing, we met through a gospel band and she does understand the different sounds that I use.
Logic is that I need a variety of tonal options to this end I have:
- Steel string acoustic
- Nylon string acoustic
- Electric with single coils (Tele as I don't get on well with Strats)
- "Rock" guitar, twing humbuckers (tappable) with a whammy bar.
- "Funk" guitar, semi acoustic twin humbuckers
- "Jazz" guitar - Charlie Christian at the neck and Piezo in the bridge
Did get rid of a few others though and we don't talk about the one that is in the loft... Never got close to 28 though that's impressive Matthew.
I did not sell them to buy Logos stuff though, I have to say that I still love guitars more!
God Bless
Graham
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Paul Golder said:
I keep thinking about getting this, not so much to sit and read, but for references, and quotes. And the pre-pub price is less than a used hardcover set.
There is a reading guide available here.
Paul, thank you so much for reading guide.
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Sad news:
Ships Feb 2011
The Harvard Classics and Fiction Collection (71 vols.)"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Paul Golder said:
I'm saddened that it is again being postponed, but at the same time relieved that it is being postponed. Hitting right after the Christmas holidays was going to put a strain on the book budget (thank you Logos...haha). When it ships in February, I should be in a better financial position to absorb the cost of these great books.
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Bill Shewmaker said:
I'm saddened that it is again being postponed, but at the same time relieved that it is being postponed. Hitting right after the Christmas holidays was going to put a strain on the book budget (thank you Logos...haha). When it ships in February, I should be in a better financial position to absorb the cost of these great books.
I never thought I would say this, having waited Soooo long for it, I am happy for the delay in shipping. I had not forseen this wild Christmas sales campaign coming. I can now seriously entertain a few extra purchases I would not have.
(I still see The Zondervan Bible Reference Bundle looming in February. [:S] )
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Thanks for the info and my response - oh dear[:(][:'(].Matthew C Jones said:(I still see The Zondervan Bible Reference Bundle looming in February.
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